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RE: AIX vs Solaris

From: Gogala, Mladen <MGogala_at_oxhp.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:39:56 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00506C19.20021119083956@fatcity.com>


There is an excellent tool called "vi".

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Dunn [mailto:john.dunn_at_sefas.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:59 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: AIX vs Solaris
>
>
> the Solaris Admintool seems to have very little
> functionality(create users
> and not much else). With SMIT on AIX you can do much, much
> more. Does anyone
> use any other party tools for easier Solaris syatems admin?
>
> John
>
>
> <<In comparison, I've always been
> less than impressed with Sun's Admintool, though I've heard it's
> somewhat improved in Sol9.>>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 17 November 2002 14:19
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> IBM has some very exciting technology in the pSeries line. Their
> Regatta line (p690) are incredible Unix-based mainframe class systems;
> similar to Sun's Sunfire and HP's Superdome lines. The really cool
> thing is that you can get those same chips in a 4-CPU configuration 4U
> rackmount box for like $50K. Those make VERY nice
> development systems.
> :-)
>
> As far as which system to purchase, that depends a lot on how much
> management wants to invest in re-training. From a Unix standpoint AIX
> isn't very hard to learn -- it's sort of a mix-match of SYSV and BSD
> compared with Solaris and HP-UX's SYSV roots (SunOS was
> BSD-based until
> Solaris 2.x).
>
> From the standpoint of configuring physical hardware, adding
> disk to the
> system, doing LVM striping, etc. they've all got similar
> commands (e.g.
> lspv on AIX vs pvdisplay on HP-UX; not sure what Sun's using
> these days,
> and it probably depends on whether or not you're using Veritas, etc).
>
> The point is that it's just a syntactical re-learning, but
> the concepts
> are all the same. HP and IBM both have fairly decent
> sysadmin assistant
> tools (AIX uses SMIT and HP uses SAM). In comparison, I've
> always been
> less than impressed with Sun's Admintool, though I've heard it's
> somewhat improved in Sol9.
>
> With regard to price performance, the three vendors seem to leap frog
> quite a bit, with no clear "leader of the pack" over a long period of
> time. I think it's a safe bet to go with any of them, although it
> remains to be seen how effective HP's new Itanium strategy will be...
> the PA-RISC chips were a very nice line, as have been the
> Sparc/UltraSparc lines, and the IBM Power-based CPU's. I'm curious to
> see if Itanium will be able to provide the raw horsepower to keep up
> with Sun and IBM over the long term, but I don't think they'd bet the
> farm if they didn't think they could do it....
>
> Rich Holland
> Guidance Technologies, Inc.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com] On Behalf Of DENNIS
> > WILLIAMS
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:28 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: AIX vs Solaris
> >
> > Bill - You may want to check with your system administrators. My
> > understanding is that the two systems are pretty much identical from
> the
> > user standpoint, but that AIX is quite a bit difference from the sys
> > admin's
> > point of view. It may make a difference, depending on your
> sys admin's
> > background, but maybe not enough to change the purchase decision.
> > Another thing to consider: what is the timeframe of your
> purchase.
> We
> > have gotten very good use from our Dec/Compaq/HP Alphas, but decided
> not
> > to
> > continue investing in the line. We looked around and
> Solaris seems to
> have
> > the strongest path to the future. Most Unix vendors, like
> HP, seem to
> be
> > planning to switch to the Intel Itanium, the chip without a proven
> > "today",
> > let alone tomorrow. I don't know what IBM plans for the future in
> terms of
> > chips. If this is just a single system purchase, then it probably
> doesn't
> > matter so much.
> >
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA, 40%OCP
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:becker.bill_at_marshfieldclinic.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:49 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > What are the major differences between AIX and Solaris regarding
> > operating system features?
> >
> > We are planning a new machine purchase; currently we are on a Sun
> machine
> > running Solaris, but IBM is making a strong proposal to management
> > (meaning significantly less cost), and we are wondering what would
> need to
> > be
> > changed. We use korn shell scripts extensively, and features such as
> > crontab, background processing, the sqlplus <<EOF ... EOF construct
> (not
> > sure what this is called). I'm fairly sure these are
> standard in most
> > flavors of unix, but I have never had contact with AIX. Does anyone
> know
> > what features differ between the two OS's?
> >
> > If we went with Solaris, we would go with Solaris 9 running
> Oracle 9.2
> > on a Sun 4800.
> >
> > Thanks for any responders.
> >
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> > Author:
> > INET: becker.bill_at_marshfieldclinic.org
> >
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