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Re: sys.aud$ - auditing user activities? - follow up

From: Tim Gorman <Tim_at_SageLogix.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 05:28:44 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0050668D.20021119052844@fatcity.com>


...um, if you say so. That really didn't answer my question, though...

I hope that your solution did not include assigning users SYSDBA privileges in order to merely track/audit them?

> Tim / All.
>
> I figured it out.
>
> Basically assign users SYSDBA privies and track accordingly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> please be a little more specific? what exactly is it that oracle won't
do?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:58 PM
>
>
> > Tim - Thanks for the well worded response. Very, very helpful.
> >
> > So my next question: Are there any 3rd party applications available to
do
> > what Oracle won't?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:29 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > SYSDBA activities are not logged to the SYS.AUD$ table, even in Oracle9i
> > with the AUDIT_SYS_OPERATIONS parameter set to TRUE. SYSDBA operations
> are
> > always logged to the OS audit trail, including access/modifications to
the
> > SYS.AUD$ table...
> >
> > The reason that these records are only logged to the audit trail
(previous
> > to Oracle9i, only connections as SYSDBA were logged) is because that is
> the
> > only way to protect the audit records review and (especially!)
alteration
> > from people with SYSDBA privilege. Someone with SYSDBA could alway muck
> > with the contents of the SYS.AUD$ table, but they would not necessarily
> have
> > OS permissions to alter the audit records sent to the OS.
> >
> > ..which is why the command CONNECT INTERNAL went away with Oracle9i, to
> > remove the last necessity for DBAs to be members of the OSDBA and OSOPER
> > groups in the OS. Now, with 9i and CONNECT ... AS SYSDBA commands, you
> can
> > "lock down" the OS account and account-group that owns the Oracle
software
> > away from those with SYSDBA privileges, thus protecting the software
> > distribution files, log files, trace files, and audit files from casual
> > modification, if desired...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:46 PM
> >
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Do any of you have suggestions for a good way to monitor sysdba user
> > > activities on the sys.aud$ table? Or, in terms of logging everything,
> > what
> > > would be the keypoints to log scrub on?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be wonderful.
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