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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: RE: Oracle DBA with SAP Needed
I can't believe you people are talking about Toledo residents like this.
It's disgusting.
--Walt (Go Mudhens!) Weaver
Bozeman, Montana
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I think the official term is "optimizing within the law."
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com
Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on Oracle® System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas - Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas
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Lange
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
In other words .... smart buisness sense....
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Yeah, but is smacks of being unethical and un-American.
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> Date: 11/6/2002 1:08 PM
Cary - I think you have a good insight. I've encountered that before.
Often
that is the reason for some strange employment advertisements in
national
magazines. As you say, posting on ORACLE-L may meet the requirement, is
free, and is fast (no need to wait months for the publication date).
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
An administrative requirement causes a lot of these types of postings with odd-looking salary ranges. Chances are that the company already has a foreign national candidate in the hiring pipeline for the job at this salary. INS requires that US citizens be given a fair shot at the job posting. One of the requirements is to advertise the position publicly. Oracle-L is a public forum.
What usually happens is that either nobody applies for the position (the salary's too low, so everybody pokes fun at it). Sometimes, somebody does apply. But it's very unlikely that at this price, it'll be anyone qualified.
Having seen this process to fruition and beyond, what often happens is that the person immigrates to the US, works hard, and makes good. The company benefits from good labor at a bargain price for at least a year or two. The applicant benefits in several ways. He or she gets physically to the USA, making well more than enough money than it takes for most people to live on. If the person becomes indispensable, the host company sponsors a green card application. From there, because the person is free to compete in the USA job market, he or she begins making the kind of money you'd expect.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com
Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Dec 9-11 Honolulu - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas - Jonathan Lewis' Optimising Oracle, Nov 19-21 Dallas
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Well with the ridiculous salary they are offering, they could at least train you in the use of SAP. This is a Fortune 500 company after all.
-- Alan Davey adavey_at_competitrack.com 212-604-0200 x106 On 11/6/2002 10:56 AM, Paulo Gomes <PGomes_at_Datinfor.pt> wrote:Received on Wed Nov 06 2002 - 19:48:43 CST
>unfortunatly i don't work with SAP or i would be interessed
>regards
>Paulo
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2002 14:49
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>If you are an Oracle DBA With SAP experience looking for a stable
>company
>where you can work within a great team environment, this company
>in Toledo,
>Ohio
>is the place for you. This Fortune 500 employer has experienced steady
>growth over
>the hundred years it has been in business and is looking for a top
>notch
>candidate.
>This company is located in a very reasonable cost of living area
>and offers
>a varied choice
>of neighborhood communities.
>If you are looking for a place to grow within your career in a smaller
>city
>atmosphere
>this is the opportunity to check out.
>
>Relocation Assistance is provided.
>
>PLEASE DO NOT send your resume for this position UNLESS you have
>the skills
>outlined below for this position.
>
>DO NOT send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
>Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot
>be
>considered.
>If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long
>term
>project history.
>
>This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
>parties
>please.
>
>NO H-1B candidates please.
>
>*Requirements:
>-MUST be a team player.
>-3+ years Oracle DBA experience.
>-SAP experience
>-Must have experience with:Installation, Backup and recovery,
>Implementation, Conversion,
> Performance tuning, Troubleshooting, Development, Database Design,
>Monitoring, and Support.
>-MUST have excellent communications skills
>-Major plusses are: SQL Backtrack, DB Artisan, Powerbuilder, Shell
>scripting
>and experience with
> Sybase and/or SQL Server.
>
>Base Salary is 55K-to maybe high 60s Firm.
>
>The employer itself offers a comprehensive medical plan, dental
insurance,
>life insurance,
>sick leave and disability plans, a retirement plan, vacation days,
>a 401K
>Plan, and much more.
>
>For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
>to:
>
>OraStaff, Inc.
>Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
>Phone: 1-800-549-8502.
>Please Use Job Code: one/Toledo/DBA-SAP/Jenni
>
>I pay referral fees.
>So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
>in the position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
>--
>Author: OraStaff
> INET: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
>
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