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RE: LOCALLY MANAGED TABLESPACE

From: Hand, Michael T <HANDM_at_polaroid.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:59:38 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004FA5D2.20021101125938@fatcity.com>


Jay,

I've been going through this for the first time as well. In 8.1.7 you can a LMT as a user's temporary tablespace, but as soon as the process try to create a temp segment, you'll get the ORA- error. So, if you want LMT and temporary segments you'll need the Temporary tablespace / tempfiles. Just created mine on our sandbox, and one other thing I found out; you can't put temporary tablespaces in backup mode, and they are not listed with normal datafiles in a controlfile trace (that 2 things).

Mike Hand
Polaroid Corp.

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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:22 PM
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Jay,
 Is your tablespace type "TEMPORARY" or "PERMANENT". I tried to create a LMT for type temporary and it is not allowed. Oracle 8.1.7 . The Oracle 8i DBA Handbook also says that Temporary can not be LMT. It may allow the creation of an LMT for a permanent tablespace that contains temporary objects.
Ron
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>>> JayMiller_at_TDWaterhouse.com 11/01/02 02:45PM >>>
Very, very lucky.  

I've been trying to get permission to move just my temporary tablespace to
locally managed for months. My boss' boss refuses to give the okay until
after our standby database is moved to a new location (if anyone can explain
why those two things are related in any way I'd be overjoyed).  

And yes, I pointed out that every other database (either new or migrated
before DBA responsibilities got shifted to someone who knows nothing about
databases) has been using locally managed tablespaces and that our QA and QC
testing went perfectly.      

Jay Miller      

 -----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:14 PM
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You are lucky, very lucky...

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:59 AM
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Pardon the ignorance, I'm simply trying to understand... What is meant by
"management" in this context? I'm can't imagine a circumstance under which
ANY business manager would have a say on what goes on in the black box called Oracle. Downtime? Cost of hardware/software? Vendor selection? I can
see the input on those issues. But, all the way down to extent management??
Or am I simply lucky to not have that level of bureaucracy?  

Gary Weber
Senior DBA
Charles Jones, LLC||Superior Information Services, LLC

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:29 AM
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Same here  

Getting management to first understand the extent issue on Dictionary managed was a interesting exercise. Now trying to break that understanding
down when wanting to use LMT is like double the work, painful.  

Difficult thing trying to educate them enough to understand something but
not leaving at the same time halve way where you start getting these interesting architecture decisions or ideas.  

George


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Sent: 25 October 2002 13:04 PM
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The only issue we faced was convincing the management that in LMT having 150
extents is not really a problem.

Raj



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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L  

Hi
I am thinking to change our few dictinary manages tablespace to locally

managed tablespace.Can any one experienced any issues with locally managed
tablespace?
Do any one experience what gain after changing to locally managed tablespace?

Thx
-Seema

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