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Scott Heisey taught the "New Features for 8i" administrators class that
I took.
Yeah, he's in my top ten of Oracle instructors.
A not at all complete, in no particular order list is:
Scott Gossett
Scott Heisey
Sue Jang
John Hough
Please note, I have NOT taken classes from all the Oracle instructors, nor have I taken a class in recent years, so if there are new and/or as good, instructors, I don't know of them.
Rachel
--- "Gogala, Mladen" <MGogala_at_oxhp.com> wrote:
> Actually, he isn't. There is another guy, named Scott Heisey, who
> teaches
> an OPS/RAC version of this course. He is also supposed to be one of
> the
> great sages of the Oracle Corp. I've attended Scott Gossett's course
> and it
> was fabulous. I've only heard about Scott Heisey and it is my great
> wish to
> go to his course.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:24 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course
> >
> >
> > that I know of yes unfortunately, because I believe Scott is the
> only
> > one teaching the classes.
> >
> > Is there a separate and distinct Oracle education site for the UK
> and
> > Europe?
> >
> > Rachel
> > --- Mark Leith <mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Are these Internals classes only available in the US?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Carmichael
> > > Sent: 29 October 2002 11:04
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > I didn't mean to imply that you were going into damagement!
> > >
> > > I was lucky enough to have someone point me to "seminars"
> > and figured
> > > I'd share my luck.
> > >
> > > I think the reason they don't publicize it is that he is
> > the only one
> > > teaching it and it's full without publicizing. Can you imagine if
> > > they
> > > made it generally available? He'd have time to do nothing else!
> > >
> > > Rachel
> > >
> > > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > > Rachel, I'm not bucking for a management slot by being clueless
> > > about
> > > > the
> > > > details. Really I'm not. I registered online for the
> internals
> > > > course by
> > > > searching for it. I just kind of assumed from what Scott
> > said that
> > > I
> > > > just
> > > > managed to luck out when I searched for the course and
> > found it. I
> > > > mistakenly assumed the course was quietly being removed
> > from online
> > > > registration after hearing Scott's statements about hiding and
> not
> > > > publicizing the course.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:58 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I registered for it online, at education.oracle.com
> > > > >
> > > > > you have to search on seminars, not classes. It's difficult
> to
> > > > find,
> > > > > but it IS there
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > > > > RE: Oracle Internals courseThat rumor's been going on for
> > > > versions
> > > > > > now. As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week
> internals
> > > > > > course. Course participants would sign all sorts of
> > > > non-disclosure
> > > > > > forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to
> > > Customer
> > > > > > Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these
> courses?
> > > > Surely
> > > > > > not all the Silver Support people I've called. A
> difficulty
> > > with
> > > > a
> > > > > > two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to
> benefit
> > > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > course are the ones least likely to be let free for two
> weeks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a
> new
> > > > version
> > > > > > of Oracle comes out. Why teach internals when there are no
> > > > > > initialization parameters and the database maintains and
> tunes
> > > > > > itself? There's been an economic downturn and Oracle
> > DBAs have
> > > > lost
> > > > > > their jobs. But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his
> job
> > > > because
> > > > > > a later version doesn't require a DBA? Oracle on CDs 1,2
> and
> > > 3,
> > > > huh?
> > > > > > I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of
> Oracle
> > > I
> > > > had
> > > > > > that came on a single diskette.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden. You
> have
> > > to
> > > > > > call Oracle directly and ask for it. A number of people
> > > > registered
> > > > > > for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up
> > > then
> > > > > > complained that they weren't about to get anything out of
> the
> > > > > > course..
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Nick Wagner
> > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rumor has it that this course is not going to be
> > > > offered/modified
> > > > > > for the 9.2 release of Oracle. Can anyone confirm or deny
> it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also
> came
> > > > back
> > > > > > extremely pleased with it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM
> > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott is the "instructors's instructor"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he learns the new features, then teaches them to the
> > > > instructors so
> > > > > >
> > > > > > they can teach them to you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a
> few
> > > > years
> > > > > > ago
> > > > > > as well. He's a great teacher.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO
> SEE
> > > > HIM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago.
> Yup,
> > > > Scott
> > > > > > flies
> > > > > > > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots
> of
> > > > extra
> > > > > > > material to
> > > > > > > spare. It's really refreshing to hear him tell the
> class
> > > how
> > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > developers
> > > > > > > documented something then tell how it's actually
> > built. He
> > > > keeps
> > > > > > a
>
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