Rachel, I'm not bucking for a management slot by being clueless about the
details. Really I'm not. I registered online for the internals course by
searching for it. I just kind of assumed from what Scott said that I just
managed to luck out when I searched for the course and found it. I
mistakenly assumed the course was quietly being removed from online
registration after hearing Scott's statements about hiding and not
publicizing the course.
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> I registered for it online, at education.oracle.com
>
> you have to search on seminars, not classes. It's difficult to find,
> but it IS there
>
>
> --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > RE: Oracle Internals courseThat rumor's been going on for versions
> > now. As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week internals
> > course. Course participants would sign all sorts of non-disclosure
> > forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to Customer
> > Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these courses? Surely
> > not all the Silver Support people I've called. A difficulty with a
> > two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to benefit from the
> > course are the ones least likely to be let free for two weeks.
> >
> > The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a new version
> > of Oracle comes out. Why teach internals when there are no
> > initialization parameters and the database maintains and tunes
> > itself? There's been an economic downturn and Oracle DBAs have lost
> > their jobs. But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his job because
> > a later version doesn't require a DBA? Oracle on CDs 1,2 and 3, huh?
> > I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of Oracle I had
> > that came on a single diskette.
> >
> > Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden. You have to
> > call Oracle directly and ask for it. A number of people registered
> > for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up then
> > complained that they weren't about to get anything out of the
> > course..
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick Wagner
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course
> >
> >
> > rumor has it that this course is not going to be offered/modified
> > for the 9.2 release of Oracle. Can anyone confirm or deny it?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also came back
> > extremely pleased with it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott is the "instructors's instructor"
> >
> > he learns the new features, then teaches them to the instructors so
> >
> > they can teach them to you
> >
> > I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a few years
> > ago
> > as well. He's a great teacher.
> >
> > If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO SEE HIM
> >
> > --- Tom Pall <tpall_at_realtime.net> wrote:
> > > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago. Yup, Scott
> > flies
> > > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots of extra
> > > material to
> > > spare. It's really refreshing to hear him tell the class how the
> >
> > > developers
> > > documented something then tell how it's actually built. He keeps
> > a
> > > database
> > > running in his notebook to prove what he says. Scott's one great
> >
> > > teacher.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >
> > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:53 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > I just wanted to say...
> > >
> > > If you have a chance to take the Oracle Internals course with
> > Scott
> > > Gossett
> > > at Oracle, I highly recommend it.
> > >
> > > I wish I knew half of what he knows!
> > >
> > > The course isn't included in the OCP tracks, I think it should be
> >
> > > given a
> > > higher profile though.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Patrice Boivin
> > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > >
> > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
> > > Technology Services | Services technologiques
> > > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
> > > Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
> > >
> > > E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
> > >
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