Re: Database Creation(RANTING)

I agree 100%. I recommend starting w/ the least read and most useful piece of documentation a newbie can be exposed to. That would be the concepts manual.

-Mark

On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 15:03, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> I got "well, you know Ingres, that's a database so you're the Oracle
> DBA"
>
> read and re-read and re-read the Oracle docs (all two books, this was
> version 5) until the lightbulb went off... went VERY gingerly into the
> database to look at things.
>
> And prayed. A lot
>
> Reading the manual is NEVER a bad thing
>
>
> --- Joe Testa <jtesta_at_dmc-it.com> wrote:
> >
> > copy the init.ora
> > look at the size of the redo logs, size of the datafiles.
> > make all the directories on the new machine.
> >
> > Wait, how did you create the first database? I'm 99% sure you didnt
> > type create database.
> >
> > use the same scripts
> >
> > and oh yes READ THE DOCUMENTATION.
> > Most of the people here will help the newbies BUT DAMN take some of
> > your
> > own initiative.
> >
> > If you'd like to know how I learned oracle 11+ years ago, read on
> > otherwise delete now.
> >
> > I start at a large insurance firm as a C programmer/Unix SA. First
> > day
> > on the job, they asked me what I knew about Oracle, I said nothing,
> > which was the truth. They said can you load it for us on this sun
> > box,
> > I said "sure does it come with an installation guide?", they had no
> > idea
> > since the box was still sealed. I opened it up and started reading.
> >
> > Today its a easier, you can use database creation assistants, all of
> > this GUI crap, creating a Database is damn baby's work nowadays.
> > Back
> > in version 5 days, the docs sucked, support sucked, we had to figure
> > it
> > out on our own.
> >
> >
> > Spend some time reading the docs, experimenting, learning instead of
> > having everyone bottle feed you. You can almost be a decent DBA by
> > not
> > doing anything except using GUI tools, so my question is why all of
> > the
> > questions, if you've not eeven read the administrators guide. Take
> > some
> > initiative.
> >
> > That is all.
> >
> > joe
> >
> >
> >
> > Santosh Varma wrote:
> >
> > > i am using oracle 8.1.7
> > > and have a product ready for release to the customer in my office.
> > > in the client's place, only the oracle is installed.
> > >
> > > next step i presume is database creation to which my application
> > will
> > > interact .. right ??
> > >
> > > how do i make sure that the database i create is the same as the
> > > database in my office..
> > > and could anyone of u give me the exact parameters for create
> > database
> > > which are necessary.
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > >
> > > Santosh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > --
> > Author: Joe Testa
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