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RE: Data Purging - Approaches

From: Gogala, Mladen <MGogala_at_oxhp.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:48:38 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004E9D40.20021015134838@fatcity.com>


One other nice thing is to use partitioning option. You put a partition offline, you back it up and drop it. Life goes on, you add few columns to the table and - voila , your backup tape is useless, you cannot actually bring the partition back. A very good tool to facilitate archiving is produced by Princeton Softech (http://www.princetonsoftech.com).
That tool does make life a lot easier. That tool solves the incompatibility problem.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:30 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Data Purging - Approaches
>
>
> I'm not a proponent of purging data.
>
> Unless of course, you expect to never see it again.
>
> That word 'archive' rolls of the tongues of managers
> and consultants pretty easily, but what's behind it?
>
> There are a few gotchas with purging and archiving.
>
> Let's assume you have some 3 year old data that
> you need to see again, and it has been purged.
>
> Here are some of the possible problems:
>
> * Your backup tapes are corrupted
> * Your new backup hardware can't read the old tapes
> * Your software no longer understands the format that
> the data is in.
> * You have the correct software, but it won't work on the
> current version of OS on your hardware.
> * The data format/software/whatever is not well documented
> * The employees that understood the data 3 years ago
> have been laid off.
> * ... lots more stuff
>
> Read Bryon Bergeron's "Dark Ages II: When the Digital Data Die"
> http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=2-0130661074-0
>
> Perhaps much better than archiving the data, is to stick with the
> idea of moving it to another database, and using lots of cheap
> disk storage (NAS) or a heirarchical file system to store it.
>
> The point being that if it's online somewhere, it will be maintained.
>
> Don't purge it till Finance, HR, the IRS and any other stakeholder
> says it's ok. Only then purge it and archive it to offline
> tape with the
> knowledge that you may never see that data again.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> prem_at_ibsplc.com
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> 10/15/2002 05:38 AM
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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> Subject: Data Purging - Approaches
>
>
>
> Dear List,
>
> We need to remove data from our database everyday, so we are
> plannning to
> have a scheduled process for this. But the case is that we
> cannot simply
> remove the data. This data has to be made available at a
> later time if
> required. So this is the process that we have designed.
> 1. The background process would first insert all the
> required data
> from the main database to another database.
> 2. Now if this successfull, it would be deleted from the main
> database.
> 3. The selection criteria on which the data to be purged
> is found is
> a business requirement. It is based on some date, but we
> cannot partition
> the data based on the date, otherwise we could have done with
> paritioning
> and dropping the partition could have been easily done.
> 4. The data in the second database would be archived in a normal
> sequence
> 5. If any user request for the data already purged, the
> data would be
> read from the second database and shown to him.
>
>
> Now the issue, the data that has to be moved or deleted in such a way
> would mount to more that 10 GB of data, so is this method a
> good solution.
> Can anybody suggest a better approach for doing this.
>
>
> We are using Oracle 9i database, Weblogic Application server and Java
> client. We have list partitioned our database.
>
> Any other data purging techniques would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Prem Chandran N
>
>
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