Re: Oracle Trial License

Alexandre,

Here is some of the text you refer to:

Trial Programs Included With Orders
We may include additional programs with an order which may be used for trial purposes only.

What this says to me is that Oracle _may_ include additional programs which may be used for trial purposes for 30 days. It does not apply to the main download.

Otherwise, what would be the point of charging people $199 under the same licence terms (Technet Tracks) to have all releases in twelve months sent to them?

Cheers,

John

In message <F001.004B1B50.20020811234819_at_fatcity.com>, Alexandre Gorbatchev <alexandre.gorbatchev_at_avermann.de> writes
>John,
>I have quoted OTN(Oracle Tech Net). That's the same.
>If you take a further look down at "few other things", you'll see the text I
>quoted. Two conditions together limit the usage only for development and
>prototyping and only for period of 30 days.
>Btw, the download site of www.oracle.com is technet.oracle.com
>(otn.oracle.com).
>
>Alexandre
>----- Original Message -----
>To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 11:38 PM
>
>
>> When you said OTN, I thought you meant Oracle Technet.
>>
>> If you look at the this site:
>>
>> http://technet.oracle.com/software/htdocs/devlic.html?/software/products/
>> oracle9i/htdocs/winsoft.html
>>
>> You will find the licence asks you to agree you're not someone the US
>> doesn't like and then to accept the Technet licence agreement. Which
>> includes the following:
>>
>> License Rights
>> We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use the
>> programs only for purposes of developing and prototyping your
>> applications, and not for any other purpose. If you use the
>> applications you develop under this license for any internal data
>> processing or for any commercial or production purposes, or you want to
>> use the programs for any purpose other than as permitted under this
>> agreement, you must contact us, or an Oracle reseller, to obtain the
>> appropriate license. We may audit your use of the programs. Program
>> documentation is either shipped with the programs, or documentation may
>> accessed online at http://otn.oracle.com/docs.
>>
>> Ownership and Restrictions
>> We retain all ownership and intellectual property rights in the
>> programs. The programs may be installed on one computer only, and used
>> by one person in the operating environment identified by us. You may
>> make one copy of the programs for backup purposes.
>>
>> You may not:
>> ·use the programs for your own internal data processing or for any
>> commercial or production purposes, or use the programs for any purpose
>> except the development and prototyping of your applications;
>> ·use the applications you develop with the programs for any internal
>> data processing or commercial or production purposes without securing an
>> appropriate license from us;
>> ·remove or modify any program markings or any notice of our proprietary
>> rights;
>> ·make the programs available in any manner to any third party;
>> ·use the programs to provide third party training;
>> ·assign this agreement or give or transfer the programs or an interest
>> in them to another individual or entity;
>> ·cause or permit reverse engineering or decompilation of the programs;
>> ·disclose results of any program benchmark tests without our prior
>> consent; or,
>> ·use any Oracle name, trademark or logo.
>>
>> And a few other things...
>>
>> So basically you can use it for development, free of charge, as long as
>> you don't put applications you develop into production use at your site
>> or anyone elses.
>>
>> I think the terms you were quoting refer to Trial licences from
>> www.oracle.com's shop, not OTN.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John Thomas
>>
>>
>> In message <F001.004B0440.20020809003318_at_fatcity.com>, Alexandre
>> Gorbatchev <alexandre.gorbatchev_at_avermann.de> writes
>> >Here is the quotes:
>> >.....
>> >
>> >Trial Programs Included With Orders
>> >We may include additional programs with an order which may be used for
>trial
>> >purposes only. You will have 30 days from the delivery date to evaluate
>> >these programs. Any use of these programs after the 30 day trial period
>> >requires you to obtain the applicable license. Programs licensed for
>trial
>> >purposes are provided "as is" and we do not provide technical support or
>any
>> >warranties for these programs.
>> >
>> >.....
>> >
>> >Doesn't that mean that any use (limited to development and prototyping in
>> >other paragraph above this one) is for 30 days only? Or this limitation
>is
>> >only for "additional programs?" What does "additional programs" mean?
>> >
>> >Alexandre
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>> >Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:04 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >> Unless I misread something, or the licence has changed, a Technet
>> >> download licence is an indefinite development licence for use on one
>> >> computer.
>> >>
>> >> It is only when your app goes into production that you must buy a full
>> >> licence.
>> >>
>> >> Also check out Technet Tracks. For $199 Oracle send you a year's worth
>> >> of releases of the DB, 9iAS and the full development suite (Forms,
>> >> Designer etc) and give you limited Metalink access for a year. Again
>> >> under the Technet development licence.
>> >>
>> >> See https://www.oracle.com/jsp/otntt/index.jsp
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> In message <F001.004AD360.20020806235820_at_fatcity.com>, Alexandre
>> >> Gorbatchev <alexandre.gorbatchev_at_avermann.de> writes
>> >> >Ken,
>> >> >I guess you are still supposed to buy it to continue using it at home
>> >after
>> >> >30 days trial. Larry trusts you. :)
>> >> >
>> >> >Alexandre
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: KENNETH JANUSZ
>> >> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:38 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Oracle Trial License
>> >> >
>> >> > Mark:
>> >> >
>> >> > That's what I thought, but I wanted to confirm it. I will be using
>this
>> >> > software on my own PC for educational purposes only.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Ken
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: Mark Leith
>> >> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:18 AM
>> >> >> Subject: RE: Oracle Trial License
>> >> >
>> >> >> It keeps on chugging along.. You are "obliged" to pay the license
>> >> >> fee after that AFAIK..
>> >> >
>> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
>> >> >>> KENNETH JANUSZ
>> >> >>> Sent: 06 August 2002 16:33
>> >> >>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> >> >>> Subject: Oracle Trial License
>> >> >
>> >> >>> I want to purchase 9.2i for XP Prof. via OTN. Oracle states
>that
>> >> >>> the trial license is for 30 days. What happens at the 30 day
>> >> >>> mark? Does the DB lock up or keep on going? What happens,
>> >> >>> if anything?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> Ken Janusz
>> >>
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