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Dude,
Tisk, tisk, sounds like you didn't read all 25,000 pages of documentation before starting your install/deinstall/reinstall hell.
VAX?! Well, the versions of early Oracle products were quite simple back then, no? Installing Oracle stuff on Netware or DOS/Windows back in the old days was pretty easy too.
The kind of complex combo you are attempting is probably inherently going to be problematic, and I would definitely have asked Oracle tech support about install sequence issues (as well as the ODBC problems, etc.). My assumption is that the earlier product(s) should be installed first, but that may or may not be much of a factor. You've got a lot of stuff to tease out to find the "real" problem. I would go through separate clean installs of each pair of programs, looking for glitches, then add anothe component, etc.
(probably more time consuming than a complete reinstall?)
fwiw, I'm currently working a somewhat simpler juggling act with Dev6i products and the 3.x installer and the 8.1.7.x client components installed with the 8.1.7 OUI.
Don't forget that after reinstalling/installing 8.1.7 stuff, you need to repatch it.
I still can't understand why you have the Oracle9 EE db installed (but I'm not an OEM person), do you need it there for OEM to work?.
fwiw, someone I know had a complete freeze trying to install both the Oracle9i db and 9iAS on a Windows laptop with 512MB RAM (sandbox machine).
The test machine idea is good.
(The following is not intended to be comprehensive, just some random stuff that I came across. )
Anyways, here are the official "manual cleanup" instructions for WinNT/2000:
>From the Oracle 8.1.7.0.0 EE install cd "d:\welcome.html":
(also see file:///E:/doc/Output/deinstal.htm#1088513 "Deinstalling Oracle Components with Oracle Universal Installer")
---excerpt---
file:///E:/doc/Output/deinstal.htm#1096331
> Manually Removing All Oracle Components and Services from Your
> Computer In rare situations, you may want to correct serious system
> problems by completely removing Oracle components from the computer.
>
> Remove all Oracle components from your computer only as a last resort,
> and only if you want to remove all Oracle components from your system.
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
> Note:
> You can also use the ORADIM utility to manually deinstall a database
> and registry entries. See the following documentation for information:
>
>
> READMEDOC.HTM or READMEDOC.PDF located in the \DOC directory of the
> component CD-ROM
>
> Chapter 6, "Post-Installation Database Creation" of Oracle8i
> Administrator's Guide for Windows NT
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Removing Components on Windows NT
> To remove all Oracle components from a computer on Windows NT:
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Caution:
> These instructions remove all Oracle components, services, and
> registry entries from your computer. In addition, any database files
> under ORACLE_BASE\ORADATA\DB_NAME are also removed. Exercise extreme
> care when removing registry entries. Removing incorrect entries can
> break your system.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Ensure you are logged in as a user with Administrator privileges.
>
> Stop all Oracle services (if any are running):
>
> Choose Start > Settings > Control Panel > Services.
>
> If any Oracle services (their names begin with Oracle) exist and have the status Started, select the service and choose Stop.
>
> Choose Close to exit the Services window.
>
> Start the registry at the MS-DOS command prompt:
>
> C:\> REGEDT32
>
> Go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT.
>
> Delete any key that starts with Oracle or ORCL.
>
> Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE.
>
> Delete the ORACLE key.
>
> Delete the Oracle ODBC Driver key under
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI.
>
> Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and remove
> all keys under here that begin with ORACLE.
>
> Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services
> \EventLog\Application, and remove all keys under here that begin with
> ORACLE.
>
> Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ORACLE.
>
> Delete keys that start with Oracle or ORCL (if any exist).
>
> Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ODBC\ODBCINST.INI.
>
> Delete any Oracle keys (if any exist).
>
> Close the registry.
>
> Go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Environment tab.
>
> Choose the system variable path and modify the Path variable.
>
> Remove any Oracle entries from the path. For example, if JRE was
> installed by Oracle, remove the %ORACLE_HOME%\BIN path and the JRE
> path. You may see a path similar to this one:
>
> C:\ORACLE\ORA81\BIN;G:\PROGRAM FILES\ORACLE\JRE\1.1.7\BIN
>
> Exit the Control Panel.
>
> Go to SYSTEM_DRIVE:\WINNT\PROFILES\ALL USERS\START MENU\PROGRAMS.
>
> Delete the following icons:
>
> Oracle - HOME_NAME
>
> Oracle Installation Products
>
> where HOME_NAME is the previous Oracle home name.
>
> Delete SYSTEM_DRIVE:\Program Files\Oracle through Windows NT Explorer.
>
> Delete all ORACLE_BASE directories on your hard drive.
>
> Reboot your computer.
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Don't know if the following 8.1.7 instructions are relevant to a co-install with 9.x stuff, but check it out:
---begin---
file:///E:/doc/Output/ch2.htm#1093249
> Single Oracle Home Components
> Most Oracle components can be installed multiple times on the same computer. However, the following components can only be installed once per
> computer:
>
> Oracle Performance Monitor for Windows NT
>
> Oracle Objects for OLE
>
> Oracle Open Database Connectivity (ODBC) Driver
>
> Oracle Provider for OLE DB
>
> Oracle SNMP Agent
>
> If you attempt to install these components a second time, Oracle
> Universal Installer detects that these products are already installed
> in another Oracle home and automatically removes them from the
> installation process without prompting you. The following information
> is logged to the INSTALLACTIONS.LOG file in the X:\PROGRAM
> FILES\ORACLE\INVENTORY\LOGS directory.
>
> # product_name is a single oracle home product. It is already
> installed in currently_installed_location.
>
>
> If you are performing an installation and notice that one or more
> single Oracle home components are not available for installation
> during the current session, check to see if any of these components or
> any previous versions of these components are installed in another
> Oracle home. If you want to install these in the currently selected
> Oracle home, you must first deinstall the conflicting version(s).
>
> See Also:
> Appendix A, "Individual Components Available for Installation" for the installation types under which these components are installed.
>
>
---end---
On 24 Jul 2002 at 6:38, Jesse, Rich wrote:
Date sent: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:38:29 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE- L_at_fatcity.com> Send reply to: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego,California
> > From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:eric_d_pierce_at_pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:58 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: Windohs client problems
> >
> >
> > are you talking about reinstalling windows, or oracle?
> >
> > did you take it down to bare metal, and remove all
> > oracle products, including following the instructions
> > from oracle tech support for doing a manual cleanout?
> >
> > do you have a production db installed on that box?
>
> "Just" Oracle. I don't have an instance running, but I don't fancy
> attempting to uninstall/delete/reinstall/reconfigure 9i, because I'm running
> OEM (server and client w/remote repository) and an ONames backup. According
> to Oracle Support, I should just be able to nab the .ora files before the
> uninstall to maintain the config of OEM, but this isn't true. The GUI
> settings appear to be local to the client, especially the "Groups" settings
> (e.g. background images). ONames is a little simpler.
>
> The last time I wiped Oracle and reinstalled on Windohs, it took a few
> *days*. Hell, even with the supremely icky Oracle installs on VMS I could
> have that done in a couple of hours. <sigh> Perhaps I just bite the bullet
> and reinstall. To do this correctly on WinTuke, I have a few questions:
>
> 1) If more than one ORACLE_HOME is required (in my case, due to differences
> in 8i/9i), is the order of installation important? Should I install 8.1.7
> client before or after 9i EE? Or doesn't it matter?
>
> 2) From a Registry monitor program, I saw that the MS ODBC for Oracle
> driver only looked at HKLM/SOFTWARE/ORACLE/ORACLE_HOME for it's ORACLE_HOME.
> This key doesn't change it's value when the active ORACLE_HOME is changed
> thru Oracle Home Selector. So, how do I get the MS ODBC driver to point to
> other ORACLE_HOMEs? And what exactly does the Oracle Home Selector change?
> How should a client program identify the current ORACLE_HOME?
>
> WHY THE HELL IS THIS SO FREAKING COMPLEX? K.I.S.S.! <grumble grumble>
> Maybe I need to start a "rant-rant-rant" thread? ;)
>
> > backups?
>
> Backups of my PC? Ha! At the very least I should be getting an Winders box
> for testing Oracle stuff now that this has happened a few times.
...
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