Rachel,
now THAT must have been funny as all hell!
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
"and if Rachel were to become a Nun"???? My mother would start sitting
shiva, because as far as she would be concerned, I'd have died :)
I did love the interview I gave once:
Me: Okay, so last few questions. How do you learn about Oracle?
Interviewee: Oh, I read the manuals, read the Oracle-l (I can see the
light dawning) you're ...... Rachel Carmichael
- "Freeman, Robert" <Robert_Freeman_at_csx.com> wrote:
> The interview (exerpts from some of my actual ones, and then some
> made up)
>
> We are in my cube. I've studied the resume for Mr. Morias, who is a
> Portuguese national who's degree is from University who's name I
> can't
> pronounce and who's credentials I can't verify. He is a brand new
> OCP.
>
> Me: Good day Mr. (looks again at resume, I have a short term memory)
> Morias.
>
> Interviewee: Oi ai senhor, esta bom encontraa-lo.
>
> Me: Sir, I didn't understand you, please try again..
>
> Interviewee: Sorry sir, I forget I need speak English. Good day sir.
>
> Me: So, let's start our interview, shall we. Tell me what a rollback
> segment
> is please.
>
> Interviewee: It is the method by which Oracle database store all
> database
> changes. It is used during recovery.
>
> Me: (Figuring we have made a Jr. DBA type mistake here) Ok... and
> tell me
> about a redo log.
>
> Interviewee: It used to provide consistent image to database users.
> Oracle
> has automated redo in Oracle9i.
>
> Me: Are you sure that you don't have these kind of turned around?
> Redo logs
> are used for recovery, rollback segments are used for read
> consistency.
>
> Interviewee: No, you are mistaken, I know it is as I described. I've
> been a
> DBA for 10 years, I know what I am doing.
>
> Me: Ok... so, when you have a problem with a database, what do you do
> to
> solve the problem?
>
> Interviewee: I go to ORACLE-L and ask Rachel, she know everything.
>
> Me: And if she is on vacation or not responding to questions?
>
> Interviewee: I wait for Rachel to return.
>
> Me: And if Rachel were to become a Nun and never grace ORACLE-L
> again?
>
> Interviewee: I check out Lazy DBA, Mike Ault is there.
>
> Me: AND if the Internet were unavailable?
>
> Interviewee: (thinks for a second) I call Oracle?
>
> Me: What about the manuals?
>
> Interviewee: Oracle has Manuals? I've never seen them.
>
>
>
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> Oracle Database Architect
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
> Author
> Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
> Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
> Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex)
>
> Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
> Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
> guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and
> your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin'
> crazy.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> you can see how often I use the GUI :)
>
> OBTW.. for those of you who are OEM fans... I heard a rumor (from a
> fairly well-informed, usually accurate source) that Oracle's changing
> it all again.
>
> T
> --- April Wells <awells_at_csedge.com> wrote:
> > IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button.... geez
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:24 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Good rant. :)
> >
> > I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is "I click on this
> item
> > on the GUI..." (I didn't ask you that, I asked you the theory
> behind
> > that little radio button)
> >
> >
> > --- mkb <mkb125_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, I need to vent a little.
> > >
> > > Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over
> > > the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with
> > > about 2-3 years experience.
> > >
> > > I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I
> > > think that I ask particularly tough questions. The
> > > questions that I ask potential candidates are soley
> > > based on what is on the resume. So I figure if
> > > someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their
> > > resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly
> > > intelligent conversation about these topics. No such
> > > luck!
> > >
> > > What really frustrated me, and what I really want to
> > > get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to,
> > > had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget about
> > > recovery. I asked each and every candidate who
> > > claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high
> > > level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care
> > > about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The answers
> > > I got were completely off base, baffling and
> > > frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5
> > > years experience!!!
> > >
> > > 'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how
> > > these are done...' (But it says on your resume you've
> > > done this???)
> > >
> > > 'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the
> > > datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not
> > > how a hot backup is done, right?)
> > >
> > > 'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup
> > > starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? What?)
> > >
> > > 'During this time, everything is written to the redo
> > > logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been
> > > reading one of those books, haven't you?)
> > >
> > > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
> > > backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them
> > > got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to
> > > what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't
> > > know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I
> > > asked every candidate how they would do an online
> > > recover of a datafile while the database was still in
> > > use. No ideas. Not even close.
> > >
> > > I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this
> > > list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as
> > > knowledgeable as you guys? Perhaps I'm asking too
> > > much?
> > >
> > > Rant over. Thanks for listening.
> > >
> > > mkb
> > >
> > >
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