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you can see how often I use the GUI :)
OBTW.. for those of you who are OEM fans... I heard a rumor (from a fairly well-informed, usually accurate source) that Oracle's changing it all again.
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--- April Wells <awells_at_csedge.com> wrote:
> IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button.... geez
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Good rant. :)
>
> I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is "I click on this item
> on the GUI..." (I didn't ask you that, I asked you the theory behind
> that little radio button)
>
>
> --- mkb <mkb125_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ok, I need to vent a little.
> >
> > Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over
> > the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with
> > about 2-3 years experience.
> >
> > I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I
> > think that I ask particularly tough questions. The
> > questions that I ask potential candidates are soley
> > based on what is on the resume. So I figure if
> > someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their
> > resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly
> > intelligent conversation about these topics. No such
> > luck!
> >
> > What really frustrated me, and what I really want to
> > get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to,
> > had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget about
> > recovery. I asked each and every candidate who
> > claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high
> > level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care
> > about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The answers
> > I got were completely off base, baffling and
> > frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5
> > years experience!!!
> >
> > 'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how
> > these are done...' (But it says on your resume you've
> > done this???)
> >
> > 'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the
> > datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not
> > how a hot backup is done, right?)
> >
> > 'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup
> > starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? What?)
> >
> > 'During this time, everything is written to the redo
> > logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been
> > reading one of those books, haven't you?)
> >
> > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
> > backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them
> > got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to
> > what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't
> > know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I
> > asked every candidate how they would do an online
> > recover of a datafile while the database was still in
> > use. No ideas. Not even close.
> >
> > I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this
> > list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as
> > knowledgeable as you guys? Perhaps I'm asking too
> > much?
> >
> > Rant over. Thanks for listening.
> >
> > mkb
> >
> >
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