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you didn't give them multiple choice test. DUH!
Sorry... you would think that the script one would have bothered to find out how the script was working... in case it stopped working for some obscure reason...
It is people like this who frustrated me so badly when I was interviewing places. Well you know your stuff and have all the qualifications... but you don't have the required years of experience, so we can't hire you and if we did, we wouldn't be able to pay you for what you know, only for how many years service you have in the field.
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Ok, I need to vent a little.
Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with about 2-3 years experience.
I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I think that I ask particularly tough questions. The questions that I ask potential candidates are soley based on what is on the resume. So I figure if someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly intelligent conversation about these topics. No such luck!
What really frustrated me, and what I really want to get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to, had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget about recovery. I asked each and every candidate who claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The answers I got were completely off base, baffling and frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5 years experience!!!
'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how these are done...' (But it says on your resume you've done this???)
'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not how a hot backup is done, right?)
'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? What?)
'During this time, everything is written to the redo logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been reading one of those books, haven't you?)
I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I asked every candidate how they would do an online recover of a datafile while the database was still in use. No ideas. Not even close.
I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as knowledgeable as you guys? Perhaps I'm asking too much?
Rant over. Thanks for listening.
mkb
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