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RE: DB copying : Attack of the Clones!

From: Deshpande, Kirti <>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 08:23:19 -0800
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You got that right: poorly managed project. About the business need for copying these many databases this frequently: it is the User and Vendor demand that IT Damagers won't question if User paid for the solutions. That's how it was told to me by a guy heading this little project.
BTW this is not 11i, these are in-house built systems by our preferred vendor.

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Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 4:24 PM
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"Deshpande, Kirti" wrote:
> Currently it is taking about 3-4 hours via cold backups. All I could get
> from the Damagers in the conf call yesterday was that current time is not
> acceptable. They are doing this over the week-end for 5 of the databases
> a staggered fashion (1-2 hour delay), but with 9 more databases (and
> large than these 5), there aren't enough hours in the week-end to support
> this as well as routine batch processing. Today, I found out that IT
> Damagers want to present all possible solutions and the COSTS to the User
> Dept Damagers who will pay for the solution. Will expensive solution force
> them to continue current method or use hot backup (or RMAN backup)? I am
> hoping it will. In the long run, they will have to consider subsets of
> as the databases will most likely double in sizes within a couple of years
> (since we do not like to purge anything).
> Regards,
> - Kirti

If it is *that* important to them that they have 9 11i Instances refreshed *that* frequently, they may wish to consider using a three-disk-mirror solution. This would allow you to avoid tape altogether. (Products like EMC's
"BCV's" or "Timefinder").

(Sounds like a poorly managed project to me. In all of the projects I've been
on I don't think we *ever* refreshed that many databases anywhere near *that*
frequently. Normally, I've found that anything beyond 3-4 instances [maybe 5
during an upgrade cycle] is probably unwarranted.)

Personally, I'd seriously question the _real_ business NEED to have *that* many
databases and to refresh them quite so frequently.

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man   persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress    depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw

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Received on Sat Jul 20 2002 - 11:23:19 CDT

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