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SPFILE Bug [RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?]

From: Deshpande, Kirti <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:02:05 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004985F8.20020715130205@fatcity.com>


Okay.. Oracle Support just informed me that Bug # 2462605 has been filed regarding this issue with SPFILE.... not visible to public yet, but following text is in my TAR:



  Called customer lms on vm.... please call when avail   SME did see this.. but did not file a bug on this.

  15-JUL-02 17:08:16 GMT
  talked with custoemr.. about this.. he would like me to file a bug   filing bug
  15-JUL-02 17:19:47 GMT
  bug was filed
  2462605

  15-JUL-02 17:29:37 GMT
  Associated bug 2462605 has been updated and has changed status to 10.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deshpande, Kirti [SMTP:kirti.deshpande_at_gtedc.gte.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:24 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?
>
> Thanks, Tony.
>
> If that were the case, the second test (scope=spfile) should not have
> failed.
>
> Oracle Support left a v-mail to me stating that they are considering this
> a
> bug. And wanted to talk to me about more testing. I will get with them
> later today (or tomorrow).
>
> Regards.
>
> - Kirti
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aponte, Tony [SMTP:AponteT_at_hsn.net]
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:37 AM
> > To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > Cc: kirti.deshpande_at_gtedc.gte.com
> > Subject: RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?
> >
> > On my version of UNIX (Solaris) moving/removing a file that is in use
> only
> > affects the directory entry and not the actual payload on disk. I
> suspect
> > that the spfile was held open by your sqlplus program and it executed
> the
> > I/O operation using the open file descriptor. I've participated in
> > similar (and unplanned) tests with ufs-based file systems where all of
> the
> > underlying files where rm-ed and the database continued to run. It
> > crashed when it tried to switch into the next and non-existent redo log
> > files. A post-mortem on the incident taught us that removing an open
> file
> > only removed the entry from UNIX's directory file but the cleanup was
> > postponed until the OS closed the last open handle for that i-node.
> >
> > HTH
> > Tony Aponte
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deshpande, Kirti [ <mailto:kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:58 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?
> >
> >
> > All Right, Larry. Since we have the test servers and databases; and my
> > Company still pays for 'doing Oracle' the 'scary' way, here is another
> > 'scary thing' I did with SPFILE :)
> > (9iR1 on HP)
> >
> > SQL> conn / as sysdba
> > Connected to an idle instance.
> > SQL> startup <---- using spfile
> >
> > ORACLE instance started.
> > Total System Global Area 72273416 bytes
> > Fixed Size 437768 bytes
> > Variable Size 37748736 bytes
> > Database Buffers 33554432 bytes
> > Redo Buffers 532480 bytes
> > Database mounted.
> > Database opened.
> > SQL> show parameter db_cache_size
> > NAME TYPE VALUE
> > ------------------------------------ -----------
> > ------------------------------
> > db_cache_size big integer 33554432
> >
> > SQL> !mv spfileKED9.ora spfileKED9.ora.bak <-- hide the spfile
> >
> > SQL> !ls -l *.ora
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 oracle dba 12920 May 10 2001 initdw.ora
> >
> > SQL> alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=both; <-- try to set a
> new
> >
> > value
> >
> > System altered. <--- No problem?
> >
> > SQL> show parameter db_cache_size
> >
> > NAME TYPE VALUE
> > ------------------------------------ -----------
> > ------------------------------
> > db_cache_size big integer 12582912
> >
> > --> New value in effect.
> >
> > SQL> !ls -l *.ora
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 oracle dba 12920 May 10 2001 initdw.ora
> >
> > --> Still no SFILE....
> > --> Now, why would not Oracle tell us that there was no spfile to
> process
> > SCOPE=BOTH ?
> >
> > SQL> c/both/spfile
> > 1* alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=spfile
> > SQL> /
> > alter system set db_cache_size=10M scope=spfile
> > *
> > ERROR at line 1:
> > ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
> > HP-UX Error: 2: No such file or directory
> > Additional information: 3
> >
> > -->This is what should have happened with SCOPE=BOTH as well, or at
> least
> > a
> > warning that SCOPE=BOTH was processed as SCOPE=MEMORY since there was no
>
> > SPFILE available. I would not have objected if Oracle re-recreated
> SPFILE
> > in
> > the default location and told me so!
> >
> > If anyone has seen any mention of this particular behaviour of
> SCOPE=BOTH,
> > I
> > would like to know the source of that information. I have searched
> > Metalink,
> > Google but have not come across any. I have created an iTar with OWS.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > As I said before, SPFILE has some things that need to be made fool
> proof.
> >
> > This time I did not drink prior to doing this 'scary' stuff !! ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > - Kirti
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Elkins [SMTP:elkinsl_at_flash.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:03 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?
> > >
> > > Man, it scares the heck out of me too that Jared and Kirti are
> actually
> > > "doing Oracle" -- I can't believe companies actually pay them ;-)
> > >
> > > And you two guys, and I'm talking to you Kirti and Jared, probably dig
> > in
> > > and do things you shouldn't on test boxes just to see how things work
> > and
> > > to
> > > learn. FWIW, I've heard rumors about other people doing similar
> things.
> > > You've probably even intentionally crashed a DB or pulled the plug
> just
> > to
> > > see if you could recover. Shame on you two. You should both be
> banished
> > > from
> > > the list for doing such unconventional things ;-)
> > >
> > > And neither of you will ever be allowed close to a DB I deal with --
> > I'll
> > > call ltiu from now on ;-)
> > >
> > > Larry
>
>

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