Oracle-L: RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in Dayton, Ohio..

From: Rodd Holman <roddholman_at_hotpop.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:58:39 -0800
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First you must have a demonstrated need to have access to classified material (that's US Gov't Classified not business classified). Then you need to submit the reams of paperwork through your security officer that will initiate the SBI. This is the stuff where you write down everything you ever did in your life and who you did it with. You also include a list of everyone you know. Then they go around interviewing everyone and you to see if you really told the truth. They get extremely personal to borderline embarassing with the questions. Then the mysterious clearance blesser in D.C. muddles over all this and if you are found worthy then you get it. With today's security climate this is not an easy process.

There are also drawbacks to the clearance. It is a forced barrier in relationships. Hi Honey I'm home. .. No my day really sucked. .. No, Dear, I can't tell you why. ... After a while conversations like that tend to create tensions even though both parties understand the reasons for the secrecy. I'm glad not to have to deal with that in my job.

Rodd Holman

On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 13:52, Michael Cupp wrote:

How would one begin the process of getting one? Or does it have to be government sponsored?

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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5 to 2 years to get this clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it behooves you to keep it current.

They used to estimate these clearences were worth an additional $10K a year for salary. Im thinking at least $25K now. Alot of my friends that have these clearances , whether they be DBAs, programmers, Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many places around the world due to the fact these clearances are very hard to get.

Also, the companies will not foot the bill for this delay. The government usually has to approve all hires where the individual is not cleared. From what I have seen the government is in no mood to do this as of late.

FWIW ! Mike

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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I don't understand the large number of positions coming out that require a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance. How can all these positions be filled unless these company/entities start footing the bill for people getting the clearances?!?

Johnson, Michael wrote:

>That is not my understanding.
>
>FWIW. Mike
>
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>Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets can admit to doing
>so :) One can say you have been the subject of a Special Backgroud
>Investigation, and Extensive Background Investigation, a Full Field
>Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of 100 these investigations
>are done for just such access.
>
>Ian MacGregor
>Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>ian_at_SLAC.Sranford.edu
>
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>I suspect that this position will be at Wright-Patterson Air Force
>base.
>
>OraStaff wrote:
>
>
>>Position: Oracle DBA with Top Secret SCI Clearance
>> (Please do not send your resume unless you have the required
>>
>>

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