RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again

I enjoyed this thread a lot and this is how I see it:

If a company is hiring a DBA and they have no people with database experience to interview the candidates then probably any certification could be a factor here.

Most of the companies that hire DBA are usually looking for a talent that adds a big value to the entire group. Talent usually means a person who has good database administration, development, data modeling, data architecture, performance tuning experience. Also they do not test if you can answer a question like "What is the STORAGE CLAUSE" but they asses your ability as person to learn, react, improve and lead a team.

This kind of talent will never be judged by a certification or a single test but if it happened then I think this is probably will not be the right place to work for.

Even companies that do not have database people to interview candidates they usually ask external people to do this for them.

I was asked many times by many of my previous clients to interview people for them. Also I had the chance to interview OCP candidates.

My experience is most of the people that went for OCP were people either changing careers or very junior.

So as long you have the confidence that you can market yourself and your skills then certification means nothing but if you have nothing to sell then probably buying a certificate could help.

Regards,

Waleed

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> list of specifications that were given to them. They also use
resume
> processing software that is looking for specific hits on specific
words.

That has always been the problem. Most of these things were written for jobs that have NOTHING to do with IT. Reminds me of the add here a few years ago, looking for people with 3 years experience in Forms 4. Came out two months BEFORE Oracle announced Forms 4... Says it all.

> It's not the best of all worlds but it is the real world.

Indeed. Doesn't mean we have to take it in without at least making heaps of noise...

Cheers
Nuno Souto
nsouto_at_optushome.com.au

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