RE: the ora certified masters cert - finally bloody sick

From: Weaver, Walt <wweaver_at_rightnow.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:18:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0048A74F.20020627081825@fatcity.com>

Psst! Kirti, I have the questions to the exam. Meet me in the alley behind the drugstore downtown and we can hash out a deal...

--Walt

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I will now return to my 8i OCP prep.
Anyone wants to sell the student guides from 8i NF ILT ??? ;-))

• Kirti

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:13 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Mike,

If you got the impression from anything I've posted here that I believe anyone who has gotten the OCP title is a liar and a cheat then I am very sorry as that is NOT the impression I meant to give.

I think the OCP exam itself is worthless and not a measure of what a DBA knows. I think there are many DBAs out there who can add "OCP" to their resume who are wonderful DBAs (let's see, I read and learn from your posts, Joe Testa's, Kevin Loney has it as well.... and others)

What I object to is the presumption that if you have those letters on your resume you are AUTOMATICALLY a good DBA.

Rachel

• Hately Mike <Mike.Hately_at_churchill.com> wrote:
  > I've been pretty quiet while you all said that the OCP program was
  > pretty
  > worthless because I can see your point. I don't believe that it
  > proves that
  > the holder is technically better than someone has isn't certified.
  > From my
  > point of view, though, I'm convinced that in a tight market it's
  > helped to
  > get me into interviews and that justifies the cost to me.
  > Now, however, you're straying towards calling OCP DBAs liars and
  > cheats and
  > implying that we're dangerous to have on site and I'm sorry but I'm
  > not
  > going to have that.
  > What merit is there in saying "doctors have malpractice insurance and
  > OCP
  > ... should have one too.". Where's the evidence for that kind of
  > witless
  > comment?
  > I originally took my OCP after amassing 10 years of DBA experience. I
  > don't
  > want to get into a pissing contest over this but it grates on me to
  > have it
  > constantly implied that OCP is just there to make up for lack of
  > ability.
  > I'm aware that many of you (Don for instance) have qualified their
  > statements by saying that applies to "a few" or "some" but the
  > implication
  > is still that the majority of OCPs are trying to make up for some
  > sort of
  > technical deficiency.
  >
  > If you don't want to spend the money or the time then that's fine by
  > me. I
  > certainly won't it necessary to criticise you for it.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Mike Hately
  >
  > No, really; I usually have a sense of humour.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > Sent: 27 June 2002 08:13
  > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  >
  >
  > From my experience with a few DBAs that waved their OCP around like
  > it was a
  > Nobel prize, some probably should have malpractice insurance. Lots
  > of it.
  >
  > Don Granaman
  > [Certifiable OraSaurus - NOCP]
  >
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