Wow. Knitting. I will have to watch for that. At Live, She came late,
stayed a good portion, rah ra'd for a bit and left. Guess I was real lucky.
Thank You
Stephen P. Karniotis
Product Architect
Compuware Corporation
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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 6:23 PM
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Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again
You're both lucky! She stayed all the way through mine and never once broke
out her knitting!
Daniel W. Fink
Sr. Oracle DBA
MICROMEDEX
303.486.6456
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:03 PM
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Matt, she walked out in the middle of your presentation??
Your lucky. She walked out of mine at the beginning, shaking her head. Oh
well...
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 5:40 PM
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well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to walk
out in the middle
- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM>
wrote:
> Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
> little sparse on details.
>
>
>
> ----
> Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com
> We have enough youth.
> How about a fountain of intelligence?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> But Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt... you were always scheduled at either the
> same
> time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
> get
> stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to see
> equally as much were there.
>
> Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
> have to leave around 2:30 or so....
>
>
>
> --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM>
> wrote:
> > But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> > presentations!!!!! (in my best whiney voice)
> >
> > At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> >
> > ----
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com
> > We have enough youth.
> > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> >
> > or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> >
> > "he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"
> >
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> > --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM>
> > wrote:
> > > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
> > > schedule
> > > to give two presentations) due to a medical situation. I gave
> > four
> > > the
> > > year
> > > before that.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com
> > > We have enough youth.
> > > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OK. As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
> to
> > > weed out
> > > the fluff. If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
> noticed
> > a
> > > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
> > > content.
> > > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
> but
> > > the
> > > content has to be there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
> track
> > > and then
> > > complained that they were not accepted. Let me give you some
> > > concrete
> > > numbers. This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
> > track
> > > alone
> > > and accepted only 80. If one slips through the cracks, it won't
> a
> > > second
> > > time. Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
> > content-organized
> > > IOUG.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Further comments? Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen P. Karniotis
> > >
> > > Product Architect
> > >
> > > Compuware Corporation
> > >
> > > Direct: (248) 865-4350
> > >
> > > Mobile: (248) 408-2918
> > >
> > > Email: Stephen.Karniotis_at_Compuware.com
> > >
> > > Web: www.compuware.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:39 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > unfortunately, I've seen this to be true at
> > > many conferences, including the IOUG
> > > and SEOUC.
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com
> > > "Doing linear scans over an associative array is like
> > > trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi."
> > > - Larry Wall (creator of Perl)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > <mailto:ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU> ]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:54 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll bet a dynamic animated speaker chockful of amusing anecdotes
> > > whose
> > > presentation is technically weak scores better than a plodding
> > > monotonous
> > > one with better information to convey :) Especialy if the
> audience
> > > is
> > > composed of nascent DBA's :)
> > >
> > > Ian MacGregor
> > > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> > > ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:09 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > one being a marketing venue, the other being a place where you
> can
> > > learn from ohers experiences.
> > >
> > > and to clarify further, if you are a lousy presenter, giving bad
> > > information, you get horrible scores and, since the selection
> > process
> > >
> > > is not blind, don't get asked back to present again.
> > >
> > > So having a list of many presentations, at various conferences,
> can
> > > be
> > > an indicator of knowledge.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <Stephen_Karniotis_at_compuware.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Let me clarify something. It was at Oracle Open World, not
> > IOUG-A
> > > > Live
> > > > where these presentations were made. Please do not confuse the
> > > two!!
>
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