doctors have to take more than a multiple choice test to be certified.
getting certified might be hard work.. but I had a developer who
decided he wanted to be a DBA so he went out and got his certification.
He studied for the tests, took them and passed. Give my choice I
wouldn't have allowed him to work on my development databases, let
alone production. He knew NOTHING about being a DBA.
- ltiu <ltiu_at_alumni.sfu.ca> wrote:
> Work experience is better than certification but ...
>
> Getting certified is hard work. Takes a lot of time and effort (not
> to
> mention money). So it must be worth something. If only for a little
> bit. It
> is definitely not worthless.
>
> Work experience plus certification is the best combination.
>
> Certification is no different from being a doctor. You need to pass
> exams to
> be a doctor too (you need internship to go as well, of course).
>
> As for naming famous Oracle authors, I don't think this is a valid
> gauge of
> your capacity as a DBA. I know some people well versed in Computer
> Engineering concepts (from 'great' authors) but can't code. They
> sound like
> experts but can't deliver sh_t.
>
> ltiu
>
> On Wednesday 26 June 2002 15:23, you wrote:
> > This threads getting to be a lengthy one, and I might as well add
> my two
> > cents to it. I too come from the same school of thought. That you
> are OCP
> > certified holds no water with me. OK. So you are OCP Certified.That
> dont
> > impress me much.
> >
> > One of my first questions, when I am asked to conduct an interview,
> is ask
> > them to name some of the Oracle Gurus they have read about, to name
> some
> > helpful Oracle sites, or some great white papers. The answers,
> almost
> > always, tend to reflect the level of expertise. Jonathan Lewis,
> Steve
> > Adams, Cary Millsap, Craig Shallahamer, Anjo Kolk, Tom Kyte, Kevin
> Loney,
> > Rama Velupuri, Racheal Carmicheal, ..................
> >
> > Sadly, my point of view differs from that of most recruiters. I
> know of an
> > OCP who, when told that the developers were running out of
> temporary
> > tablespace, put in a request with the SA to increase the disk space
> for
> > /tmp. I also know of a HR personnel who rejected my resume coz I
> had no 8i
> > experience. Sadly, my resume said 8.1.6, 8.1.7.
> >
> > Raj
> > Not an OCP Certified DBA
> >
> > "Whatever little I know, I owe it to my ignorance".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Julia Phu
> > <julia_phu_at_rocke To: Multiple
> recipients of
> > list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> tmail.com> cc:
> > Sent by: Subject: Re: the
> ora
> > certified masters cert, yet again root_at_fatcity.com
> >
> >
> > June 26, 2002
> > 05:22 PM
> > Please respond
> > to ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I can't help being quiet.
> >
> > I've no respect for the OCP. I saw MANY people bought
> > the exams from many sources. These people memorize the
> > questions and answers prior the test day. Voila, they
> > pass the tests and still don't understand how to
> > install and configure the database.
> >
> > I learned it on my job and am still learning. I took
> > the 8i exam program and was EXTREMELY disappointed. I
> > learned nothing.
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