Re: the ora certified masters cert, yet again

Work experience is better than certification but ...

Getting certified is hard work. Takes a lot of time and effort (not to mention money). So it must be worth something. If only for a little bit. It is definitely not worthless.

Work experience plus certification is the best combination.

Certification is no different from being a doctor. You need to pass exams to be a doctor too (you need internship to go as well, of course).

As for naming famous Oracle authors, I don't think this is a valid gauge of your capacity as a DBA. I know some people well versed in Computer Engineering concepts (from 'great' authors) but can't code. They sound like experts but can't deliver sh_t.

ltiu

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 15:23, you wrote:
> This threads getting to be a lengthy one, and I might as well add my two
> cents to it. I too come from the same school of thought. That you are OCP
> certified holds no water with me. OK. So you are OCP Certified.That dont
> impress me much.
>
> One of my first questions, when I am asked to conduct an interview, is ask
> them to name some of the Oracle Gurus they have read about, to name some
> helpful Oracle sites, or some great white papers. The answers, almost
> always, tend to reflect the level of expertise. Jonathan Lewis, Steve
> Adams, Cary Millsap, Craig Shallahamer, Anjo Kolk, Tom Kyte, Kevin Loney,
> Rama Velupuri, Racheal Carmicheal, ..................
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> Sadly, my point of view differs from that of most recruiters. I know of an
> OCP who, when told that the developers were running out of temporary
> tablespace, put in a request with the SA to increase the disk space for
> /tmp. I also know of a HR personnel who rejected my resume coz I had no 8i
> experience. Sadly, my resume said 8.1.6, 8.1.7.
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> Raj
> Not an OCP Certified DBA
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> "Whatever little I know, I owe it to my ignorance".
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> Julia Phu
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> June 26, 2002
> 05:22 PM
> Please respond
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> Sorry, I can't help being quiet.
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> I've no respect for the OCP. I saw MANY people bought
> the exams from many sources. These people memorize the
> questions and answers prior the test day. Voila, they
> pass the tests and still don't understand how to
> install and configure the database.
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> I learned it on my job and am still learning. I took
> the 8i exam program and was EXTREMELY disappointed. I
> learned nothing.

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