it reminds me of one of the comments (an bad rating) on the DBA 101
book on amazon...
to paraphrase "this book is no good because it doesn't help me cheat
and lie on job interviews"
I consider that HIGH praise
- Julia Phu <julia_phu_at_rocketmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I can't help being quiet.
>
> I've no respect for the OCP. I saw MANY people bought
> the exams from many sources. These people memorize the
> questions and answers prior the test day. Voila, they
> pass the tests and still don't understand how to
> install and configure the database.
>
> I learned it on my job and am still learning. I took
> the 8i exam program and was EXTREMELY disappointed. I
> learned nothing.
>
>
> --- Alexandre Gorbatchev
> <alexandre.gorbatchev_at_avermann.de> wrote:
> > Seems nobody's left quiet. :)
> > Personally, I don't want to be obstinate. I wouldn't
> > avoid certification
> > only because I think (and yes, I do) it's all about
> > the Oracle's revenue and
> > nothing about professional knowledge. Works for
> > Oracle - fine, glad for
> > them. As "side effect" I can have increase in
> > personal revenue and that's
> > what I care about. That's what I count on.
> > Well, that's my point here.
> >
> > Alexandre
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:33 PM
> >
> >
> > > Well that explains a lot. In a separate post
> > Rachel also said Oracle
> > > denigrated the prior Chauncey/IOUG tests so it's
> > obvious that Oracle is
> > just
> > > using testing and certification as another source
> > of revenue. Professional
> > > Development of the DBA community is just marketing
> > hype. All the more
> > reason
> > > to avoid the 9i tests.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 7:08 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > >
> > > The original certification program was developed
> > by IOUG when Mike Corey
> > was
> > > president of the group. I cannot remember if the
> > program ever certified
> > > anyone other than those who built it. Once
> > Oracle had its own
> > > certification program the IOUG one withered.
> > >
> > > The relationship between ORACLE and its user
> > groups have not always been
> > > friendly. The OAUG's complaints have made the
> > national press. If my
> > memory
> > > serves, and its already been shown to be faulty,
> > the first OOW-Americas
> > was
> > > scheduled to be at the same time as the IOUG-A.
> > Corey indicated he was
> > > going to see Ellison and explain to him that he
> > couldn't do such a thing,
> > > that OOW-Americas would have to be rescheduled.
> > Ellison was not moved,
> > > neither was the OOW-Americas conference; the
> > IOUG-A get together was :)
> > >
> > > To its credit IOUG-A live is seen as a more
> > credible than the marketing
> > show
> > > known as OOW. However I doubt the conference
> > would maintain its value if
> > > Oracle sent no one. If the IOUG had a competing
> > certification program,
> > > Oracle would do its best to snuff it out.
> > >
> > > Ian MacGregor
> > > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> > > ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu
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