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RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again

From: Grabowy, Chris <cgrabowy_at_fcg.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:08:34 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00488AD8.20020626080834@fatcity.com>


TOO FUNNY!!!!! I am rolling over here...

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Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:28 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

<stands up nervously in front of the rest of the group, as it is his first time at the NOCP meeting>

Hi, my name is Lee, and I am not an Oracle certified professional

<attempts to sit back down, whilst being hugged and slapped on the back, cheers echo around the room>

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 26 June 2002 15:33
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well that explains a lot. In a separate post Rachel also said Oracle denigrated the prior Chauncey/IOUG tests so it's obvious that Oracle is just using testing and certification as another source of revenue. Professional Development of the DBA community is just marketing hype. All the more reason to avoid the 9i tests.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 7:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Importance: High

The original certification program was developed by IOUG when Mike Corey was president of the group. I cannot remember if the program ever certified anyone other than those who built it. Once Oracle had its own certification program the IOUG one withered.

The relationship between ORACLE and its user groups have not always been friendly. The OAUG's complaints have made the national press. If my memory serves, and its already been shown to be faulty, the first OOW-Americas was scheduled to be at the same time as the IOUG-A. Corey indicated he was going to see Ellison and explain to him that he couldn't do such a thing, that OOW-Americas would have to be rescheduled. Ellison was not moved, neither was the OOW-Americas conference; the IOUG-A get together was :)

To its credit IOUG-A live is seen as a more credible than the marketing show known as OOW. However I doubt the conference would maintain its value if Oracle sent no one. If the IOUG had a competing certification program, Oracle would do its best to snuff it out.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu
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