Sorry can you rephrase the question please but give me multiple choice
answers :-)
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Sent: 25 June 2002 16:59
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Yes, I KNOW you know what you are talking about and know how to do your
job... but CAN you take a TEST?!?!
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
okay, I realize this won't work for everyone on this list but...
I hand them my resume. the third page of which is FILLED with lists of
presentations I have given, awards I have gotten for presentations I
have given and books I have written
if they STILL want me to have OCP on my resume after that, I don't want
to work there anyway
- Jack Silvey <jack_silvey_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> The question is, are you going to allow your
> clearminded moral stance and total disdain for a
> thinly veiled DBA tax to interfere with your pursuit
> of filth lucre? *I* ain't!
>
> ;)
>
> It is just another hoop to jump through so that a
> hring manager can say "that is an impressive hoop you
> jumped through" and you can respond "yes, and I can
> jump through some hoops for you too" and allow them to
> say "here is an outrageous sum of money to work on our
> computers."
>
> I love this job.
>
> jack silvey
> ocp 7.3, 8.0, 8i, 9i
>
>
> --- Don Granaman <granaman_at_cox.net> wrote:
> > They aren't - unless it exceeds a non-trivial
> > percentage (6%? 7%? more? I
> > can't remember now...) of their income and is
> > "required" (?).
> >
> > This new requirement for OCP is just another in a
> > long line of
> > propaganda/baloney from Oracle in its never-ending
> > attempts to suck up every
> > buck it possibly can. [Oracle likes $$$$$. HR
> > likes mindless checklist
> > items. It is a match made in heaven.] I thought
> > that the "need practically
> > any two ILT classes, no matter how irrelevant" 9i
> > OCM was going to be the
> > limit of extending the the greedy grab for OCP bucks
> > - for 9i at least.
> > This isn't about certification anymore (as if it
> > ever was), its about
> > revenue.
> >
> > Since this "new requirement" (for the moment at
> > least) doesn't apply to
> > upgrade from an 8i certification, does anyone know
> > if there is (or soon will
> > be) a new constraint/surprise/ambush limiting that
> > to 8i OCP obtained prior
> > to, oh say, June 15, 2002? September 2002?
> >
> > Don Granaman
> > [OraSaurus - with more disdain than ever for the
> > evil vampire Larry's OCP
> > DBA tax]
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:23 AM
> >
> >
> > > I thought employees were not allowed to write
> > things off as business
> > > expenses...
> > >
> > > Confusedly yours,
> > > Patrice Boivin
> > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:13 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet
> > again
> > >
> > > Are you trying to promote it?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 6:50 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > I am seriously considering pursuing one, since it
> > can
> > > be sold to hiring managers as a sign of
> > professional
> > > competence.
> > >
> > > Look at it from a cost/benefit ratio standpoint.
> > Will
> > > someone with this cerifification make $2000 more
> > over
> > > her professional life than she would without?
> > >
> > > So it takes a round trip ticket and three days of
> > > vacation. Get the company to pay for it or write
> > it
> > > off as a business expense.
> > >
> > > Good investment, easy money, instant credibility
> > to
> > > many hiring managers.
> > >
> > > jack silvey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 19 Jun 2002 at 4:38, Ron Rogers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Date sent: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:38:18 -0800
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > > ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >
> > > > > It seems that our list has made mention in
> > this
> > > > report from
> > > > > Searchdatabase.com. And Oracle is trying to
> > > > justify the $2000 expence.
> > > > > If I read this correct the $2000 is for 9i
> > OCP.
> > > > > =======
> > > > > LEAD STORY
> > > > >
> > > > > ORACLE FUELS CERTIFICATION CONTROVERSY |
> > > > SearchDatabase
> > > > > Oracle has a new requirement for its potential
> > > > certified
> > > > > professionals, and the price tag is about
> > $2,000.
> > > > Many DBAs aren't
> > > > > happy about the new policy but Oracle says the
> > > > class makes their
> > > > > certification more valuable than ever. Read
> > the
> > > > details of the new
> > > > > mandate, and what DBAs and industry experts
> > have
> > > > to say about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the full details, click:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.searchdatabase.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid13_gci833782,00.ht
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> > > >
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