The question is, are you going to allow your
clearminded moral stance and total disdain for a
thinly veiled DBA tax to interfere with your pursuit
of filth lucre? *I* ain't!
;)
It is just another hoop to jump through so that a
hring manager can say "that is an impressive hoop you
jumped through" and you can respond "yes, and I can
jump through some hoops for you too" and allow them to
say "here is an outrageous sum of money to work on our
computers."
I love this job.
jack silvey
ocp 7.3, 8.0, 8i, 9i
- Don Granaman <granaman_at_cox.net> wrote:
> They aren't - unless it exceeds a non-trivial
> percentage (6%? 7%? more? I
> can't remember now...) of their income and is
> "required" (?).
>
> This new requirement for OCP is just another in a
> long line of
> propaganda/baloney from Oracle in its never-ending
> attempts to suck up every
> buck it possibly can. [Oracle likes $$$$$. HR
> likes mindless checklist
> items. It is a match made in heaven.] I thought
> that the "need practically
> any two ILT classes, no matter how irrelevant" 9i
> OCM was going to be the
> limit of extending the the greedy grab for OCP bucks
> - for 9i at least.
> This isn't about certification anymore (as if it
> ever was), its about
> revenue.
>
> Since this "new requirement" (for the moment at
> least) doesn't apply to
> upgrade from an 8i certification, does anyone know
> if there is (or soon will
> be) a new constraint/surprise/ambush limiting that
> to 8i OCP obtained prior
> to, oh say, June 15, 2002? September 2002?
>
> Don Granaman
> [OraSaurus - with more disdain than ever for the
> evil vampire Larry's OCP
> DBA tax]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:23 AM
>
>
> > I thought employees were not allowed to write
> things off as business
> > expenses...
> >
> > Confusedly yours,
> > Patrice Boivin
> > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:13 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet
> again
> >
> > Are you trying to promote it?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 6:50 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I am seriously considering pursuing one, since it
> can
> > be sold to hiring managers as a sign of
> professional
> > competence.
> >
> > Look at it from a cost/benefit ratio standpoint.
> Will
> > someone with this cerifification make $2000 more
> over
> > her professional life than she would without?
> >
> > So it takes a round trip ticket and three days of
> > vacation. Get the company to pay for it or write
> it
> > off as a business expense.
> >
> > Good investment, easy money, instant credibility
> to
> > many hiring managers.
> >
> > jack silvey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 19 Jun 2002 at 4:38, Ron Rogers wrote:
> > >
> > > Date sent: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:38:18 -0800
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >
> > > > It seems that our list has made mention in
> this
> > > report from
> > > > Searchdatabase.com. And Oracle is trying to
> > > justify the $2000 expence.
> > > > If I read this correct the $2000 is for 9i
> OCP.
> > > > =======
> > > > LEAD STORY
> > > >
> > > > ORACLE FUELS CERTIFICATION CONTROVERSY |
> > > SearchDatabase
> > > > Oracle has a new requirement for its potential
> > > certified
> > > > professionals, and the price tag is about
> $2,000.
> > > Many DBAs aren't
> > > > happy about the new policy but Oracle says the
> > > class makes their
> > > > certification more valuable than ever. Read
> the
> > > details of the new
> > > > mandate, and what DBAs and industry experts
> have
> > > to say about it.
> > > >
> > > > For the full details, click:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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