I know, I have that experience myself. What is the point
in putting in the training, then?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 5:22 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re:RE: OCP newsletter, latest changes...
>
>
> In the US one can put training on their income tax forms, but
> the IRS will
> disallow it.
>
> Dick Goulet
> One of the disallowed!
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "Boivin; Patrice J" <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> Date: 6/17/2002 12:05 PM
>
> I think this change will up the ante for corporations that do
> not send their
> staff to official training courses or expect that staff will
> keep up to date
> in their certifications on their own time and money, a $50
> book out of one's
> own pocket doesn't compare with a $2000 course.
>
> Employees in Canada can't deduct training etc. before income
> taxes, only
> consultants can. I don't know if that's the case in the U.S.
> or the UK as
> well.
>
> Maybe more people will become consultants, but then again
> there is a bit of
> a crunch in the IT job sector right now.
>
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Soon we will be required as a part of the hiring process to
> make a visit to
> Oracle for certification, medical check, and brain wash!
>
> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the
> author and do not necessarily represent those of the company
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:18 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
> I couldn't believe that, Ron, so I had to check it out myself. You're
> right:
>
>
>
> http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9i
> _ocmpract.html
> <http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/index.html?dba9
> i_ocmpract.htm
> l>
>
>
>
> Oracle Certified Master DBA Practicum Exam
>
> An OCM candidate must successfully pass the Oracle Certified
> Master DBA
> practicum after having completed the required OU advanced learning
> requirements. The practicum will be conducted at an Oracle University
> facility in each global region. The location for Americas is
> Chicago, IL.
> The cost for the practicum is $2000.00 US Dollars. Locations
> for EMEA and
> APAC have not yet been determined.
>
>
>
> The practicum is a two-day, hands-on performance based event where
> candidates will be presented with numerous scenarios that
> will require them
> to diagnose and solve highly technical Oracle server related
> problems. Each
> candidate will have their own dedicated LINUX server that is
> configured with
> the Oracle server software, Oracle Enterprise Manager, and the Oracle
> documentation set.
>
>
>
> Topics on the practicum include core database technology, database
> configuration, replication, partitioning, parallel
> operations, diagnostics,
> troubleshooting, performance tuning, and backup and recovery.
> Candidates may
> also encounter ad hoc database problems that they will have
> to resolve,
> therefore simulating "real-world" database operations. Oracle
> tools such as
> Oracle Enterprise Manager, Data Guard, Flashback, Recovery
> Manager, and
> Oracle documentation will be available to candidates during
> the practicum.
>
>
>
> Candidates will be scored on their ability to successfully
> complete the
> scenarios and if they obtain a passing score they will be
> awarded the OCM
> certification. Based upon a candidate's performance during
> the practicum,
> they may not be awarded the OCM certification if they do not
> achieve the
> preset passing score.
>
>
>
> I think that the price tag is a way too high to start with,
> but the thing
> that really blew me away is that the test is on Linux only???
> It's hard for
> me to believe that they won't let you take it on your
> platform of choice,
> especially for the hard-core-Windows guys out there.
>
>
>
> And I have to use Enterprise Manager? Give me a break - and
> a SQL> prompt.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance |
>
> | mailto:Brian.McGraw_at_Infinity-Insurance.com |
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Rogers
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:34 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
>
> Did you check out the prices for the OCM? Two classes plus $2,000 for
>
> the exam the last time I looked into it. Can I take an upgrade exam to
>
> upgrade my OCM-7?
>
> Ron
>
> ROR mo?om
>
>
>
> >>> cgrabowy_at_fcg.com 06/17/02 02:14PM >>>
>
> Speaking of OCP...I got this from the OCP newsletter...I guess Oracle
>
> needs
>
> more revenue streams...
>
>
>
> Dear Oracle Certified Professional,
>
> Please acknowledge this correspondance as an official notification in
>
> regards to your pursuit of Oracle Certification.
>
>
>
> The Oracle Certification credential continues to provide leverage to
>
> those
>
> who have earned it, leading to increased demand for Oracle Certified
>
> Professionals among hiring managers. To help meet this demand and
>
> increase
>
> the value of the credential, Oracle is investing heavily in the
>
> betterment
>
> of certification exams and learning offerings. Oracle customers and
>
> business
>
> partners demand that their Oracle Certified Professionals have
>
> hands-on
>
> experience with all aspects of the Oracle database. To meet our
>
> commitment
>
> to customers and constituents, three distinct changes are being rolled
>
> out
>
> with the goal of increasing the level of quality of our certification
>
> skill
>
> and ability benchmarks:
>
>
>
> Scenario-based testing in all new Oracle Certified Professional track
>
> exams
>
> (as of January, 2002)
>
> Instructor-led class requirement for all Oracle9i DBA Certified
>
> Professionals (as of June 15, 2002)
>
> A new hands-on Masters Practicum (available October, 2002)
>
> The OCP Oracle9i DBA track requires four tests: two required tests for
>
> OCA
>
> certification plus two additional tests. Oracle now also requires (as
>
> of
>
> June 15, 2002) that all newly starting OCP credential candidates
>
> complete
>
> one hands-on course with Oracle University in preparation for their
>
> exams
>
> and future role as an Oracle technologist.
>
>
>
> Because you are already an Oracle Certified Professional, you are not
>
> required to complete any course requirements to upgrade your
> credential
>
> to
>
> Oracle9i status. You will simply be required to take the appropriate
>
> OCP DBA
>
> upgrade exam(s).
>
>
>
> The Masters Practicum exam will be launched during October 2002 at
>
> regional
>
> centers around the globe. This credential will prove to the
> market that
>
> each
>
> Oracle Certified Master has demonstrated the ability to be successful
>
> on the
>
> job. To learn more about this credential, view our website's section
>
> specific to the OCM program. The program requires that
> candidates first
>
> earn
>
> their OCP for Oracle9i, and then complete two advanced courses from
>
> Oracle
>
> University. The website includes a list of courses that can be applied
>
> to
>
> meet the requirement. After fulfilling the course requirement,
>
> candidates
>
> can schedule an appointment for their practicum exam. The exam is a
>
> two-day
>
> event at a regional Oracle University center involving hands-on,
>
> job-performance-based testing using Oracle9i Database technologies.
>
>
>
> For more information, visit www.oracle.com/education/certification, or
>
> phone
>
> your local Oracle University representative. A complete listing of
>
> local
>
> Oracle University representative phone numbers can be at
>
> www.oracle.com/education/index.html?contact.html.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your understanding of Oracle's commitment to excellence
>
> and
>
> continued quality for the Oracle Certification Program.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Oracle Certification
>
>
>
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