Hi,
Agree with Stefan about pushy people.
To have a car in Amsterdam seems to be a nightmare. Traffic is terrible.
Roads are narrow. A lot of multi-level parkings for... bicycles :-)
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Alexandre
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> Hi Andy
>
> I can only give you some information about the Duesseldorf area in Germany
> and the Zuerich area in Switzerland.
>
> D'dorf:
>
> As a combined sys admin / dba with 6 years experience, I guess you can
> expect about 60000 Euros per year.
> If you want more, you have to be extraordinarily good. If you are not, you
> might have to accept less. I assume
> you're talking about a permanent position here.
> Cost of living is pretty high. You can expect to pay LOADS of taxes (IRS
is
> really greedy here ;). Housing should
> be about 800 Euros for a 70 square meter apartment (but not downtown,
that's
> exponentially more expensive unless
> you're really lucky). Food and clothing is also pretty expensive. My wife
> and I spend about 600 Euros per month on
> food. If you need a car, you'll have to pay a lot for insurance and tax
> (really varies, depending on the size of the engine
> and how likely it is to be stolen;). Public transportation is a good
> alternative.
>
> Zuerich:
>
> As for Switzerland, multiply the housing and food cost by 2 and there you
> are ... easy.
> Public transportation is perfect plus you pay less tax. You also can
expect
> the salary
> here to be about 30% higher then in Germany, so that makes up for it.
>
> Be warned: If you're american, you might get a culture shock regarding
> unfriendly and pushy people.
>
> I guess Amsterdam is comparable (just guessing).
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Andrey Bronfin [mailto:andreyb_at_elrontelesoft.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 12:13
> An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Betreff: off topic: anyone form Amsterdam, Holland / other major european
>
>
> Hi !
> Sorry for this off topic posting.
>
> I will probably be offered a "Solaris sys admin / Oracle DBA" position in
> Amsteram, the Netherlands.
> Unfortunately , i have no idea of what order of magnitude salary should i
> get / request.
> I have 6 years of experience in the field.
> So i wanted to ask the list memebers ( who are from Amsterdam or other
major
> European cities , which is compatible to Amsterdam in terms of costs of
> living / salaries) a couple of questions:
>
> what would be a reasonable salary for a relocating person of my
> qualifications ?
>
> What is the living cost there , i.e. an appartment to rent , food ,
leisure,
> travel , taxes ,etc.. ?
>
> How does Amsterdam compares price-wise to other Dutch cities and to other
> European capitals ?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance to everybody who will respond either directly to
me
> or to the list.
>
> Cheers.
>
> P.S : Please forgive me if this off topic question bothers you ;-)
>
>
>
> DBAndrey
>
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> * mailto:andreyb_at_elrontelesoft.com
>
>
>
>
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