Re: RTFM/ SUPPORT, etc WASRe: Index & Constraint

There ain't no substitute for doing your own research, then asking for help when you need.

Personally, I sometimes find SQL*Net baffling. There must be a hundred different ways to setup the listeners, names, tnsnames.ora, sqlnet.ora, tracing, MTS, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I still ask questions, but I try to do it myself first, ala RTFM.

Oracle book: What a travesty. That idea undoubtedly sprung from the 'fertile' 'mind' of a PHB.

PHB: Hey, this internet thingy is really catching on! Let's make our own really lame browser and force it on our customers!

RTFM was a last resort when I had to use Oracle Book.

Some enterprising soul created a utility to convert the OB format to HTML. I wish I knew who to thank for that one.

Jared

On Sunday 09 June 2002 19:13, Joe Testa wrote:
> JoJo, take a hint from someone who'd been doing oracle for 11 years now.
> The docs are ALOT better than they were in 5.x/6.x days. Heck you dont
> even have to buy oracle anymore to read the docs. They used to come
> only in paper, than using Oracle Book(anyone rememeber that one), and
> now on the web.
>
> 99% of what you need to know is in the docs, with probably 80% of that
> for the newbies is in the concepts manual. Truly someone should read
> that from cover to cover(ok web page to web page) before even asking the
> RTFM type questions.
>
> and Yes most of us who are tired of the people who ask before even
> bothering to look it up, delete the email but then at some point we get
> peaved with all of the elementary questions posted and tell them to rtfm.
>
>
> I look at metalstink daily, it aint no wonder i can't get support to
> work on some serious bug issues, when they spend time answering ("how do
> i create a user"), can't really blame support when they're answering
> RTFM type questions instead of spending time working on legitimate
> bugs(and yes i call support usually AFTER 2 weeks of working on an issue
> my self, they are my last resort, when i've exhausted all of my friends,
> cohorts and this list for my issue).
>
> joe
>
> JoJo Al-Zawawi wrote:
> >Come on, you guys.
> >
> >If you don't want to answer somebody's question, all you have to do is
> >Delete the e-mail. You really don't have to respond rudely. You don't
> > even have to say "rtfm". You could NICELY point out, "your best bet is
> > the manual." You know what? Sometimes for us newbies, the manuals just
> > aren't clear. We looked and couldn't figure it out. Does that make us
> > stupid? Maybe, maybe not. What do you care? This forum is for answering
> > questions. I won't post questions to this forum anymore (I decided that a
> > long time ago). I read others' postings and see what I can learn from
> > them.
> >
> >I really get sick of the arrogance. I'm a newbie in Oracle, but I expect
> >decency from others. I'm not a newbie in other areas, and I answer
> > others' questions politely, even the most basic questions. That's what
> > the forum is for. If you're too important and/or too busy to answer
> > "basic" questions, then just don't answer them. Click that "delete" key.
> >
> >Why do you care so much? Get over it (your own self-importance). YUCK.
> >
> >--(Mrs.) JoJo Al-Zawawi
> > Glendale, California
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:08 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Hamid,
> >
> >First, I don't think it's "high class" to misspell my name intentionally
> >(you did it more than once).
> >Second, "rtfm" is best advice, you can get, when asking such generic
> >questions, which show your unwillingness to "do your home work" and
> >which could (and should) be investigated first using documentation,
> >published books.
> >
> >Now, I can call the f@#$% manual, whatever I want, I guess it depends on
> >the quality of the particular manual :-)
> >
> >Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
> >ineyman_at_perceptron.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Alavi
> >Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 6:31 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Igore,
> >I didn't expect even in this group you can find such low class
> >people!!!! If you want to use these sort of words please keep it for
> >yourself.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:18 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >rtfm
> >
> >Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
> >ineyman_at_perceptron.com
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:46 PM
> >
> >>Hi List,
> >>What's the diffrent between unique constrint & unique index, when we
> >>have
> >
> >to
> >
> >>use which, I think both are the same.
> >>Any Idea?
> >>And what about normal index & reverse index? when we have to use
> >>normal
> >
> >and
> >
> >>when reverse index, I think Reverse index normaly using for FK index,
> >>Is
> >
> >it
> >
> >>right or not?
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hamid Alavi
> >>Office 818 737-0526
> >>Cell 818 402-1987
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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