RE: Upgrade Question

Hello Hamid,

I don't think your problem with the patch has anything to do with the oratab file. I had an identical problem upgrading a server from 8.1.7.0 to 8.1.7.3 where the installer insisted that no patch was needed. I had this happen on two different servers.

In my case, predecessors had installed 8.1.7.0 on one machine then copied the Oracle home to the other servers using different software mount points on each machine. I'm not sure why they attempted this approach but I am sure that they did not have sufficient knowledge. I tried manually copying and modifying the oraInst.loc file and the oraInventory directory but nothing helped with the patch problem.

Eventually, I bit the bullet and did a fresh install of 8.1.7.0 on each of these servers. After the fresh install, the 8.1.7.3 patch worked perfectly. This would be my advice to you.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

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Thanks,
So why when I try to Upgrade from 8.1.7.0 to 8.1.7.4 installer get confused and looking for a installed patch?
What the content of oratab should be?
I have the following values in my oratab:

STAR:/u01/app/oracle:Y   8.1.6
CQST:/u01/app/oracle:Y   8.1.6
HMS:/u01/app/oracle:N    8.1.6
DEVL:/u04/app/oracle:N   8.1.7.0 
REPO:/u04/app/oracle:N   8.1.7.0
PROD:/u04/app/oracle:N   8.1.7.0

Actualy I don't know those "Y" or "N" infront of each instance name, Do I have to change it to "Y" for 8.1.7 instances or NOT? Appreciate.

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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:23 PM
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There isn't a separate orainventory for each ORACLE_HOME. A single orainst.loc file defines where orainventory is located, and the orainventory contains info about what is installed for all versions of Oracle on the system (8i and above).

A single oratab file is used by all versions of Oracle to set ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_SID in the dbshut/dbstart scripts.

In most cases both the oratab and orainventory files are found under /var/opt/oracle.

Hamid Alavi wrote:
>
> List,
>
> Can some body tell me what's the usage of oratab & orainst.loc files (sun
> solaris OS), I am getteing confused because I have two diffrent
Oracle_home
> but just one one Orainventory Directory, It shouldn,'t be for each
> oracle_home own Orainventory directory???
> Appreciate your HELP.
> Thanks,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 12:58 PM
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>
> >> 1. Use a separate tech stack (oracle home) for each instance.
> In general I like the idea, but it gets a bit pricey on disk space if you
> are running say 20-30 instances on a given box doesn't it??
>
> >> 1a. Use a separate unix account for each oracle home for total
isolation.
> The DBA here is
> >> real anal. (BTW, that's me).
> I tend to be a bit anal too, but this is perhaps overkill.... :-)
>
> >> 3. Back up the OraInventory directory before and after an
> install/upgrade. If this
> >> directory get hammered, there is no way to recreate it except to
> re-install (Thank
> >> You Oracle! <all the sarcasm in the world implied here>).
> 100% agree with this one.
>
> >> I've also found that it is easier to use one listener for each instance
> instead of one
> >> listener for all instances.
> While I like different listeners for different versions, one per instance
> seems like a bit
> of overkill. Again, 20 different listeners is expensive from a memory POV
> and I've got to find
> 20 unused ports.
>
> >> For those on the list that disagree, flame away.
> No flames here, just seems like overkill to me.... The number of failures
I
> have gotten
> that would have been saved by this amount of overkill would fit on maybe 2
> or 3 fingers
> in about 12 years of DBA'ing, and I can't remember a production problem in
> any event that
> would have been saved.... cost benefit isn't there based on that.
>
> But hey, I'm all for high availability!!
>
> RF
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> Oracle DBA Technical Lead
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
> Author: Oracle9i New Features
> Mastering Oracle8i
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:14 PM
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>
> This is why we:
> 1. Use a separate tech stack (oracle home) for each instance.
> 1a. Use a separate unix account for each oracle home for total isolation.
> The DBA here is real
> anal. (BTW, that's me).
> 1b. I've also found that it is easier to use one listener for each
instance
> instead of one listener
> for all instances.
> 1c. We go so far as to give Oracle Names its own tech stack.
> 2. For each tech stack install, use a separate OraInventory directory.
See
> metastink for details on
> this.
> 3. Back up the OraInventory directory before and after an install/upgrade.
> If this directory get
> hammered, there is no way to recreate it except to re-install (Thank You
> Oracle! <all the sarcasm in
> the world implied here>).
>
> For those on the list that dissagree, flame away. This is what I've found
> works the best in this
> environment.
>
> In any case, if the 8.1.6.2 is in a separate home, then the 8.1.7 instance
> upgrade will not effect
> it. Since the patch says that there is nothing to upgrade, the
> /var/opt/oracle/oraInst.loc file
> probably points to the 8.1.6 OraInventory instead of the 8.1.7
OraInventory.
>
> Ron Thomas
> Hypercom, Inc
> rthomas_at_hypercom.com
> "The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're
> sober." --William Butler
> Yeats.
>
>
>
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> 06/03/02 10:23 AM
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> I have also two other instances running on 8.1.6.2, This upgrade may be
> effected from these version of Oracle or not, or this upgrade can be
totaly
> independent from 8.1.6.2
> I am a bit confused, Need your advise guy
> Thanks allot
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> You generally get this error if the conents of the file
> /var/opt/oracle/oraInst.loc points to the
> wrong OraInventory directory.
>
> We just went to 8.1.7.4 to resolve some issues with .2. So far, so good.
>
> Ron Thomas
> Hypercom, Inc
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> "The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're
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> 06/03/02 09:18 AM
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> Hi List,
>
> Friday afternoon I try to upgrade database(8.1.7.0 on sun solaris) to
> 8.1.7.4 but after few minutes I got the following message:
> "There are no Patches need to be applied from the patch set oracle 8i
patch
> set 8.1.7.4.0" and doesn't go thru at all, My question is for installing
> any patch do I have to install the previous patch first or what?
> Is there any Prepatch to Install for any patching or NOT?
> We have two option for upgrading 8.1.7.2 OR 8.1.7.4, Which one is better &
> safer??
> If I want to go for Patch 4,is there any comments or recommendation
> Really appreciate
>
> Hamid Alavi
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