All,For what its worth, I believe Rachel has the best approach to the SA / DBA relations dilemma. -). Another approach, I developed, consists of a matrix that helps delineate SA, DBA, lead and Architect responsibilities. Please feel free to download it and use at will. The on-line version is located athttp://www.blazingpathways.com/DBAresp_mtrx1_hilevel_ver.PDF (sorry about the lack of a hyperlink)I first used it at a large Mutual Fund Co in Boston 6 yrs ago and have used it at most if not at all of my client's since with great success. (Dir's and VP's have tended to implement it since it also tends to make there life easier...-). The important part is that it facilitates communication and buy-in ...Please feel free to email me at the link below for the detailed version or if you have any questions.HTH's,Thanks,A. Chris BlaisPrincipal DBAwww.blazingpathways.comchris.blais@blazingpathways.com--- Rachel Carmichael wrote:>see, this is why I always bribe my SAs. chocolate >see!
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ms to work well,>beers after work as necessary :)--- Joe LaCascio wrote:> > For what it's worth I'll add my .02 cents worth to this. I've been> in IT now for 14 years, started with Informix for my first 3 or 4> years,> the rest with Oracle. I've seen my share of duhvelopers but get the> best giggles from the "fights" that happen between DBA's and System> Admins. You know the type I'm talking about, the DBA says the> semaphores> need to be tweaked and the System Admin knows nothing about Oracle> and> doesn't want a lowly DBA to poke around ;-)> > In my humble opinion, perfect path to DBA enlightenment:> > A couple or three years as a developer,> a few as a System Admin> a year as a junior DBA learning the Job> > Joe--- Oracle RDBMS Community Forum wrote:> ORACLE-L Digest Sat, 01 Jun 2002 > Volume 2002, Number 152> > In This Issue:> > Subject > Author> ------------------------------------------- > --------------!
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AN error registering database - solve > "Danny Hughes" RE: ORA-600 > "Michael P Sale" RE: Archive log full > "Michael P Sale" RE: So, What is a 'Production DBA'? > Hately Mike Re: So, What is a 'Production DBA'? > Rachel Carmichael * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the Dalla > OraStaff Re:RE: partition tables > Rachel Carmichael Re: partition tables > =?iso-8859-1?q?paquette=20stepha> RE: partition tables > DENNIS WILLIAMS RE: So, What is a 'Production DBA'? > DENNIS WILLIAMS MySQL versus Oracle Joe> Testa > Re: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D Joe> Testa > Re: partition tables > Steven Lembark Re:MySQL versus Oracle > dgoulet_at_vicr.com > Re[2]: So, What is a 'Production DBA'? > dgoulet_at_vicr.com !
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> RE: partition tables Jack> Silvey RE: RE: partition tables > "Michael P Sale" RE: partition tables "Ron> Rogers" RE: MySQL versus Oracle > "Weaver, Walt" RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D > "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D > "Whittle Jerome Contr NCI" Design question. > "Grabowy, Chris" How to grant privileges on all the tables o > "Mandal, Ashoke" rebuilding indexes > "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 0881> Re: MySQL versus Oracle Joe> Raube > Peoplesoft/EPM Administrator with Oracle/Un > OraStaff RE: MySQL versus Oracle Bill> Pass > SQL Question > "Carle, William T (Bill), ALCAS"> RE: Design question. > "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: How to grant p!
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rivileges on all the tabl > "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: Design question. > "Whittle Jerome Contr NCI" RE: MySQL versus Oracle > G.Plivna_at_itsystems.lv > Re: How to grant privileges on all the tabl Jack> Silvey RE: MySQL versus Oracle > "Weaver, Walt" Re: MySQL versus Oracle Alex> > Functions > Sherrie.Kubis_at_swfwmd.state.fl.us> RE: partition tables > Cherie_Machler_at_gelco.com > RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D "Eric> D. Pierce" CLOBS AND Semicolons > "MacGregor, Ian A." RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D > "Freeman, Robert " RE: SQL Question Kevin> Lange > RE: Design question. > "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: MySQL versus Oracle > "Gogala, Mladen" RE: Any Equivalent of SAR !
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