Re: Financials Client question

Actually, there have been (in the past) several issues where Java-ish things have problems with the Pentium 4 processor.

Most notably:

	Note: 178050.1 "Jinitiator will not install on Pentium 4 (IV) systems"
	Note: 145839.1 "Oracle Apps 11i not supported on MS Windows NT/2000 with
Pentium 4"
	Note: 136038.1 "ALERT: Win NT/2000 - 9iAS v.1.0.2.2.1 Unsupported on Pentium 4"
	Note: 132884.1 "Unable to run Jinitiator 1.1.8.3 on Pentium 4 machines"
	

I believe that most of these issues may have been addressed, however, if you are going to have Pentium 4 clients in your environment, I recommend that you make yourself familiar with these issues and test on a few machines before you order the bulk of them.

It is my understanding that there may still exist issues with the Pentium 4 chip as it relates to *SERVER* side deployments. (i.e. 9iAS on Win NT/2K and 11i on Win NT/2K servers). So, as always, proceed with caution. If you have doubts/concerns, it is always best to log a TAR and get support to help resolve your fears...

• James

Tim Gorman wrote:
>
> Maria,
>
> The "Jinitiator" is an applet required by Oracle Developer's Forms Server,
> mainly for authentication purposes. As an applet, it is extremely sensitive
> to the version of the browser and Windows, but not so much the hardware.
>
> However, for someone to assert that the applet is sensitive to the version
> of the hardware seems suspect. Despite the "proven experience" claimed by
> these folks, I would suggest that they have less-than-perfect powers of
> observation, reasoning, and deduction. Confusing the importance of hardware
> components as opposed to software components should not build confidence.
> They are apparently equating "Pentium 3"s with one version of Windows and
> browser and "Pentium 4"s with another version of Windows and browser, when
> in fact there is a good deal of overlap that is possible. It would have
> been more helpful if they had taken the time to examine the software
> versions rather than the hardware, as the software versions surely matter
> more.
>
> ...they would not happen to be PC resellers, would they? It would explain
> both their orientation as well as their motivation... :-)
>
> You can find a great deal of more relevant information on MetaLink. From
> the front-page of MetaLink, click on the left-hand navigation button for
> "Product Lifecycle" and on that page, click the button for "Certification".
> Then, choose from the drop-down lists to find "E-Business Suite" and
> "Jinitiator", and finally choose the version of Windows you are using on the
> client to find the certified, supported versions of the software. The
> navigation in this section of MetaLink is pretty confusing, but the
> supported configurations and versions of Jinitiator can be found here...
>
> Please note that the type of CPU hardware is never prompted for; it is
> simply not a criteria.
>
> At the very least, these "experts" (to which your company is outsourcing a
> critical business function) are sufficiently vague about important technical
> details that you are quite correct to hesitate before believing any
> statements they make without some form of corroboration.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> -Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 2:18 AM
>
> > We have outsourced implementation and setup of a scaled down Oracle
> > Applications 11i (rel 11.5.5) for Suse Linux...
> > I have received a memo from the implementation team's application DBAs
> > and they
> > have informed me of a certain limitation for the specs of the client
> > PC's.
> > I was informed that the clients must either be Pentium 3s and below or
> > all Pentium 4s.
> > Mixed network of Pentium 3 and 4s will not work. I was told it was
> > because of the JInitiator being invoked from the server.
> >
> > to quote:
> > "Let us further clarify that, through our proven installation/setup
> > experience, the Shooman Application works on a network environment of
> > "mixed" Pentium 3s and earlier computers. As of this writing, we have
> > yet
> > to prove that Shooman works properly in a network of Pentium 3 (or
> > older)
> > workstations mixed with Pentium 4s. However, we have proven that the
> > application works if ALL workstations are Pentium 4s. It therefore
> > follows
> > that, should you purchase the latest Pentium 4 computers, you must issue
> >
> > ALL your Shooman users with this model in order for the system to work
> > properly." (Shooman refers to the Oracle Application residing on a
> > server named Shooman)
> >
> > I am completely ignorant of Oracle Applications as I have 0 experience
> > in managing it.
> > I'd really appreciate your opinion if we are being fooled or not.
> > I am very concerned about this because as we all know PCs become
> > obsolete in months...
> > time will come we will have to change PCs...maybe move on to Pentium
> > 5/6...
> > This can pose a problem for us.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > --
> > Maria Aurora VT de la Vega OCP
> > Database Specialist
> > Philippine Stock Exchange, Inc.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> > --
> > Author: Maria Aurora VT de la Vega
> > INET: mtdelavega_at_pse.org.ph
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: Tim Gorman
> INET: Tim_at_SageLogix.com
>

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