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RE: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly

From: <Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:03:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0046187C.20020515120324@fatcity.com>


Exactly my point. The answer is 42.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

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> From: Rachel_Carmichael_at_Sonymusic.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly
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> there is a hardware problem that necessitated Oracle coming down. the only
> question is does the database come down cleanly when YOU want it to or
> does it
> come down with a crash, time undetermined, when the file is accessed?
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> Not that I'm aware of. Sounds like an interesting idea, but one I've
> never
> tried. I just told the users there was a hardware problem that
> necessitated
> oracle coming down (whether there was one or not). Dishonest? Maybe, but
> it bought me the brief, immediate downtime necessary to prevent more
> serious
> problems in the future.
>
> Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
> 210-581-6217
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:DWILLIAMS_at_lifetouch.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:58 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly
> >
> > Scott - I agree with your advice. Could he take the bad datafile offline
> > to
> > prevent Oracle from writing to it (until he rebuilds the table)? Would
> > that
> > cause any other problems that I am overlooking?
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:33 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > No. Get some downtime, quickly(!) before data does get written to that
> > file. Go through the export/drop tablespace/recreate. BTW, do you know
> > _why_ the file header is corrupted? Is there a disk hardware problem?
> > You
> > are gonna have downtime sooner or later. Tell damagement to get over
> it.
> >
> > Scott Shafer
> > San Antonio, TX
> > 210-581-6217
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Xie, Tom [SMTP:TXie_at_taylorpub.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:58 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly
> > >
> > > Dear gurus:
> > >
> > > I just added a data file to a big tablespace (11GB) that has only one
> > > table. Unfortunately, when it was being backed up, the file head head
> > > corrupted. I don't have any backup of this file. I found that there is
> > > no data in this file yet. So I want to drop the file from the
> > > tablespace. As I know, to drop a data file, I have to export the data,
> > > drop the tablespace and recreate it, and then import data back to
> > > the tablespace. However, since our users can't stop using the table,
> > > I won't have enough down time to do that.
> > >
> > > Is there anyway I can quickly drop a data file from a tablespace?
> > >
> > > Don't tell me using "alter database datafile '...' offline drop"
> > command.
> > > It won't work.
> > >
> > > I am working on Oracle 7.3.4.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tom Xie
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