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RE: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly

From: <Rachel_Carmichael_at_Sonymusic.com>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:18:52 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00461788.20020515111852@fatcity.com>

there is a hardware problem that necessitated Oracle coming down. the only question is does the database come down cleanly when YOU want it to or does it come down with a crash, time undetermined, when the file is accessed?

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Not that I'm aware of. Sounds like an interesting idea, but one I've never tried. I just told the users there was a hardware problem that necessitated oracle coming down (whether there was one or not). Dishonest? Maybe, but it bought me the brief, immediate downtime necessary to prevent more serious problems in the future.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:DWILLIAMS_at_lifetouch.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:58 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly

>

> Scott - I agree with your advice. Could he take the bad datafile offline
> to
> prevent Oracle from writing to it (until he rebuilds the table)? Would
> that
> cause any other problems that I am overlooking?
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
>

> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:33 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>

> No. Get some downtime, quickly(!) before data does get written to that
> file. Go through the export/drop tablespace/recreate. BTW, do you know
> _why_ the file header is corrupted? Is there a disk hardware problem?
> You
> are gonna have downtime sooner or later. Tell damagement to get over it.
>

> Scott Shafer
> San Antonio, TX
> 210-581-6217
>
>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xie, Tom [SMTP:TXie_at_taylorpub.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:58 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly
> >
> > Dear gurus:
> >
> > I just added a data file to a big tablespace (11GB) that has only one
> > table. Unfortunately, when it was being backed up, the file head head
> > corrupted. I don't have any backup of this file. I found that there is
> > no data in this file yet. So I want to drop the file from the
> > tablespace. As I know, to drop a data file, I have to export the data,
> > drop the tablespace and recreate it, and then import data back to
> > the tablespace. However, since our users can't stop using the table,
> > I won't have enough down time to do that.
> >
> > Is there anyway I can quickly drop a data file from a tablespace?
> >
> > Don't tell me using "alter database datafile '...' offline drop"
> command.
> > It won't work.
> >
> > I am working on Oracle 7.3.4.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom Xie
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