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RE: Alternatives to Directly Attached Disk - NAS or SAN ?

From: Andrey Bronfin <andreyb_at_elrontelesoft.com>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 01:53:19 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0045FEE6.20020514015319@fatcity.com>


John , would you mind telling which NAS and SAN solutions have you looked at or been pointed to by the list,
and which approach / vendor / product is the leader so far ?

DBAndrey

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, May 13, 2002 6:12 PM
To: LazyDBA.com Discussion

Thanks,

The comment about SAN problems are consistent with what I've also heard - SAN solutions tend to be complex, difficult to manage and are easy to screw up in a right royal fashion. NAS filers tend not to work as fast for DBMS use (I've had two replies saying their NAS solution was replaced by a SAN for performance), but they're very easy to run - very low maintenance.

I've also received details of a new protocol Direct Access File System (DAFS) which produces performance on NAS similar to directly attached disk mounted as a raw device. If this is true (and there's very little independent review evidence available), then even the performance becomes a non-issue.

Thanks to all those who've commented - if anyone else has any experience please chip in.

John R.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 13 May 2002 16:12
To: LazyDBA.com Discussion

Hmmmm....well, sounds like first thing to consider, is avoiding windows as the OS that manages and controls it....

:-)

Kelly

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 08:04:24AM -0700, after pounding the keys randomly, MacGregor, Ian A. came up with....
> I don't much about using SAN with Oracle. However be careful how you
configure it. We had "experts" set up SAN for our Windows NT Central File system. A few months later, the system was brought down for a fairly minor problem. When restarted, it up it initiated chkdsk, a process which took over three days to complete! Users, unable to get to their files, were less than impressed.
>
> Ian MacGregor
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> ian_at_slac.stanford.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Ryan [mailto:john.ryan_at_denovopharma.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:24 AM
> To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
> Subject: Alternatives to Directly Attached Disk - NAS or SAN ?
>
>
> DBAs,
>
> I'm in the lucky(?) position of deciding the storage strategy for a mid
> sized company (100 staff and growing), who're generating large data
volumes.
> Non-Oracle volumes have reached nearly 500Gb in 12 months, and a major
> Oracle based system has just come "on tap" and expected to generate 1Tb in
> 12 months, then perhaps the same again every year - or frighteningly even
> more!!!
>
> Directly Attached Disk is not a sensible way forward, so we're looking at
> Network Attached Storage (NAS) and Storage Area Network (SAN) solutions.
In
> short I'm finding the following:-
>
> o Both give high reliability and availability with RAID and dual redundant
> almost anything
> o Both can share space between a File Serving and Unix (ie. database)
> applications although the NAS shares files not just space
> o Both provide excellent management tools including "Snapshots" and fast
> restore
>
> But SANs are supposedly faster than NAS solutions for raw I/O and
therefore
> better for database applications.
>
> Has anyone any direct experience with SAN or NAS solutions?
>
> I'm also talking to vendors, but I wondered if there was any general
> consensus in the "real" world.
>
>



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