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Re: Cloning Question

From: Scott Canaan <srcdco_at_ritvax.rit.edu>
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 12:18:52 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0045D7E0.20020509121852@fatcity.com>


I'm sorry, and I should know better. We are on 8.1.7.0.0 on Sun Solaris 2.6.

Rachel_Carmichael_at_Sonymusic.com wrote:

> In some versions of Oracle, you need a SECOND rollback segment created in the
> SYSTEM tablespace in order to create another tablespace. It can't hurt to add
> it (you can drop it immediately after you get the rollback tablespace created)
> but it could be the solution.
>
> Since you didn't include the version of the database you are working with, we
> have to be somewhat generic in our answers
>
> Rachel
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> I thought there was a rollback segment in system that would be there. It should
> be enough to get things started. After all, there isn't a separate one when you
> create a database, until you create it.
>
> DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
>
> > Scott - I think that Rachel offered better advice, and I'm sure you've read
> > her note by now. I have some experience with missing files when cloning a
> > database :-), but I haven't had the rollback tablespace missing, and that
> > would be different. One thought would be to create an extra rollback
> > tablespace on production, so that when you perform the clone operation,
> > Oracle still has some rollback segments available.
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:03 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > Dennis,
> > No. I did a create controlfile set database... I commented out the
> > rollback_segments line in the init.ora and removed the reference to the file
> > in
> > the create controlfile statement. With no reference (that I know of) to the
> > rollback segments or tablespace, I thought that the database should have
> > come
> > up, then I could create a new one. I must have missed something, but I
> > don't
> > know what that was.
> >
> > DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> >
> > > Scott - Let's see if I understand specifically what you did. You ran the
> > > CREATE DATABASE script that was generated from your production system.
> > Now,
> > > since the datafile for rollback tablespace isn't there, Oracle will come
> > up
> > > without it. Once your new instance was up, then you did a DROP TABLESPACE
> > on
> > > the rollback tablespace, followed by a CREATE TABLESPACE. I've done that
> > > scenario quite a few times on Oracle 8.1.6, just yesterday, as a matter of
> > > fact (that was a temp tablespace). If those weren't your steps, then
> > provide
> > > more details.
> > > Dennis Williams
> > > DBA
> > > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:48 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > > I spent a long time trying to clone our production data warehouse
> > > into test, to refresh it. I do this frequently, as both a way to
> > > refresh test instances and to test the backups. After fighting through
> > > 2 bad backups, I finally got a good one. However, the problem I had was
> > > that the production rollback tablespace is larger than the disk on test.
> > >
> > > My thought was that I could restore everything except the rollback
> > > tablespace, which is not the way I usually do it. I commented out the
> > > rollback_segments line in the init.ora and created a script that would
> > > create a new rollback tablespace and rollback segments, smaller than
> > > those in production. This didn't work, even though Oracle support said
> > > it should have. When I did the clone, the database would not open. I
> > > kept getting the following error:
> > >
> > > ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [25012], [1], [2], [], [],
> > > [], [], []
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what I was doing wrong? I can't figure it out, and
> > > Oracle support couldn't figure it out, either. I was able to get the
> > > database up by getting more disk added, so that there was enough space
> > > to restore the rollback tablespace file.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Canaan (srcdco_at_rit.edu)
> > > (585) 475-7886
> > > "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put
> > > into it" - Tom Lehrer
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> > > Author: Scott Canaan
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> Scott Canaan (srcdco_at_rit.edu)
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Scott Canaan (srcdco_at_rit.edu)
(585) 475-7886
"Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it" - Tom
Lehrer


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