Re: Rman, Duplicating without set untill.... & cloning with

Ruth,

  When I startup nomount my clone, no files exist, except the init.ora. I then duplicate using:

run {
set until time "to_date('040120020214','mmddyyyyhh24mi')"; allocate auxiliary channel ch1 type disk; set newname for datafile 1 to '/u03/oradata/BSCSD/system01.dbf'; ...yadda yadda...
duplicate target database to BSCSD
logfile

group 1 ('/u03/oradata/BSCSD/redo1a.log','/u04/oradata/BSCSD/redo1b.log') size 25m,
group 2 ('/u03/oradata/BSCSD/redo2a.log','/u04/oradata/BSCSD/redo2b.log') size 25m,
group 3 ('/u03/oradata/BSCSD/redo3a.log','/u04/oradata/BSCSD/redo3b.log') size 25m;

  The manual states that duplicate creates the control files. Can you tell me more about creating the controlfiles in noarchivelog?

Thanks,
Jay

>>> rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us 04/12/02 12:14PM >>>
Make sure you build the controlfiles on the clone with noarchivelog. That will keep you from having the problem of set until time.

Ruth
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I think your theory is correct. I have the same experience, I have to use SET UNTIL, otherwise RMAN complains about the archivelogs. Oracle 8.1.7 on IBM AIX.

Robin
Jay Hostetter wrote:
>
> My experience has been that RMAN will try to restore the database right up
to the current point-in-time of the production database. So if you are on a remote system, it will be looking for data in the current redo logs (or logs that were archived since the backup), which it can't access. Oracle claims that RMAN will restore the last backup, but I think it is trying to bring the duplicated DB in sync with production.
>
> I am on 8.1.7 on Tru64. I haven't investigated this enough to prove the
theory, so I could be wrong. All I know is that if I don't use SET UNTIL when duplicating a database, RMAN complains about missing archivelogs.
>
> Jay
>
> >>> rgramolini_at_tax.state.vt.us 04/12/02 10:13AM >>>
> I duplicate without at set until time using 8.0.6.3. I follow the
> instructions from Metalink. I duplicate our production databases to
another
> box and change the names from prdxxxx to rptxxxx. I do clone all of the
> tablespaces.
>
> Ruth
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> tablespaces
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm currently in the middle of a tar with Oracle about duplicating without
> set until time/scn.... According to the doc's it must be possible but when
> trying I get an error message about an archive log file that it needs but
> is not yet there.
> Any of you duplicating without set untill time/scn etc.. w/o problems
>
> if so what version RMAN/Oracle What OS/version
> What sequence of actions do you perform?
>
> Second I try to find the rman alternative to cloning just a part of the
> database but can't find anything in the Doc's
> Anybody
>
> TIA
>
> Jack
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