RE: No DBAs needed on AS400

That was pretty good Brian,:) I think that all of us have had an "Earl Fisher" that we worked for in the past!

Thanks,
Frank

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In the late 80's and early 90's I worked on an AS/400. We also had NO DBA, and the box looked and ran like we had NO DBA. Back then IBM pushed AS/400's as a "put it in and forget it/don't worry about it" box. And as a result our "database" looked and ran like a POS. I remember submitting jobs, and after 1 hour of elapsed run time the job had 1 second of cpu. That's when I made my decision to switch to Oracle and Unix.

I'm sure AS/400's are fine quality machines, and I'm not trying to bash them here (everything has it's place in the market).

If your looking for justification, find out if IBM offers training for AS/400 DBA's. Use the course description as ammunition as to why he should have had a DBA or ask him who carried out the tasks the class described. Also check out books on Amazon for same. Then describe the tasks that a Oracle DBA performs and ask him who he expects to perform them.

He's just rattling your cage, time to rattle his.

(This email is dedicated to Earl Fisher at Famous Footwear and all the
irreparable damage he caused me)

Brian P. MacLean
Oracle DBA, OCP8i

                    "Jay Hostetter"
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We are going through a merger, and management is looking to eliminate positions. Here is a brief summary of my discussion with the new director of IT:

Director: "Back when I we were using an AS400, we didn't need a DBA." Me: "Then you probably were just using files." Director: "No, it was a database."
Me: "Could you issue SQL commands?"
Director: "Yes. But we didn't need a DBA. I guess it was just one of those mysteries of life."

My thoughts are that he is using the term "database" in the generic sense of the word (our "files" are our database), or he was using some proprietary database that doesn't even begin to compare to Oracle.

For those of you who know AS400s, I would appreciate some insight that would demonstrate why he needs to keep me as a DBA.

Thanks,
Jay

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