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RE: RE: No DBAs needed on AS400

From: Boivin, Patrice J <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 04:18:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0044303D.20020412041825@fatcity.com>


Wow, this is scary thinking.

Look only at expenses, not at the need that needs to be filled.

Here's another example of that:

http://www.vnunet.com/News/1130760

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services        | Services technologiques
Informatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique 
Maritimes Region, DFO      | Région des Maritimes, MPO

E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca

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Sent:	Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:13 PM
To:	Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:	Re:RE: No DBAs needed on AS400

Hey, just wait around till the Oracle support bill shows up. No, better yet,
leave before then. If he/she is making decisions based strickly on expense you
might as well be one of the early rats, namely leave the ship before it sinks!

Dick Goulet

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Author: tday6_at_csc.com
Date:       4/11/2002 11:13 AM


I would ask myself the question, "Do I want to be working for someone this technically clueless?" I foresee a long education process via-a-vis this guy (I'm assuming that it's a guy) or a never-ending struggle just to get the basic tools that you need to do your job.  

           
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Jay,

I would provide a list of functions you perform daily and what would happen if they are not completed in a timely manner.

I would also update my resume. Sounds like a pretty naive director of IT. Either he/she is making a play to move you out and get a prior buddy in place, or is a complete idiot, thinking of short-term money savings but is completely unaware of long-term result.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:54 AM
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We are going through a merger, and management is looking to eliminate positions. Here is a brief summary of my discussion with the new director of IT:

Director: "Back when I we were using an AS400, we didn't need a DBA." Me: "Then you probably were just using files." Director: "No, it was a database."
Me: "Could you issue SQL commands?"
Director: "Yes. But we didn't need a DBA. I guess it was just one of those
mysteries of life."

My thoughts are that he is using the term "database" in the generic sense of
the word (our "files" are our database), or he was using some proprietary database that doesn't even begin to compare to Oracle.

For those of you who know AS400s, I would appreciate some insight that would
demonstrate why he needs to keep me as a DBA.

Thanks,
Jay

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