Oracle-L: RE: Rman ... what do YOU need

From: Deshpande, Kirti <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 11:59:05 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0043FE31.20020409115905@fatcity.com>

Robert,
Do you need a co-author ?? ;)
We do have IBM/Tivoli TSM/ADSM stuff and DRP is a *very big* thing for us....An active Runway, Airport Fuel Depot and an Airline hanger (where they test those jet engines) surround our office complex (all within less than 1/4 to 1/2 a mile away).
We do not have Legato, though.

Cheers !!

Kirti

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:29 PM
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>>Hope you cover *all* available MML stuff.. like IBM/Tivoli ADSM/TSM, Legato
>>etc.. etc.. and how to setup and use RMAN for Disaster Recovery scenarios

I have not yet figured out how I can do all of that (though I'd love to), as my environment only supports the Legato stuff. I might have to find someone that uses the other MML's.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 3:16 PM
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Robert,
That's good to know.
A dedicated RMAN book would be great !! Hope you cover *all* available MML stuff.. like IBM/Tivoli ADSM/TSM, Legato etc.. etc.. and how to setup and use RMAN for Disaster Recovery scenarios, where databases would be recovered on different server and different location.

Good Luck..

Regards,
- Kirti

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:12 PM
To: 'Deshpande, Kirti'; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

I have the book, and it is a pretty good 101 book. My book seeks to go to the next level, looking at things like the data dictionary views, the recovery catalog tables and how they are used, backup and recovery case studies, and the like. I will look for input from this thread for additional content.

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:40 PM
To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com; Freeman, Robert

FWIW --
Oracle Press recently published a "Backup & Recovery 101" book by Kenny Smith and Stephan Haisley.
I have not yet read it, but it claims to have RMAN coverage. Since it is part of the '101' series, I presume it covers most of the basic stuff.
Has anyone purchased it? And read it?
I may check it out at IOUG-A next week :)

Regards,

Kirti

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:54 PM
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I'm contemplating doing an Rman backup and recovery handbook. I'm wondering what you would like to see in such a book and would you use such a book? Ideas and comments welcome.

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration

The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him.

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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:54 PM
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I don't think you can do it.. I mean, you could change it to trunc the oracle_date field (that eliminates the minutes) and then do a to_date of :b1 but you will still be operating on the oracle_date field.

Okay, I HATE to suggest this, but since the table is small:

add another field to the table oracle_date_2 as a date field. Update the table set oracle_date_2=trunc(oracle_date)

add a trigger to fill in oracle_date_2 when you insert a row or update the oracle_date column

create an index on oracle_date_2 and change the query to use that column

Cherie_Machler_at_gelco.com wrote:
>
> I've got the following SQL statement that is running very long on a
> nightly
> data load. The problem is the TO_CHAR function which is preventing
> me from using the index on this small (20,000-row table).
>
> This is an 8.0.4 database so it is not possible for me to use
> make this a function-based index.
>
> The problem is that the date field has minutes, etc. included and
> those need to be eliminated before the comparison can be made.
> That's why I can't just eliminate the TO_CHAR from both sides
> of the equation.
>
> Isn't there a way that I can pull this function out of the select
> statement
> and do it in a preceeding statement? Then I could just pass in both
> variables to this statement without the TO_CHAR and use my index.
>
> Is this realistic? How, exactly could it be done?
>
>
> SELECT DATE_KEY
> FROM DATE_DIM
> WHERE TO_CHAR(ORACLE_DATE,'DD-MON-YYYY') =
> TO_CHAR(:b1,'DD-MON-YYYY')
>
>
> SQL> desc date_dim;
> Name Null? Type
> ------------------------------- -------- ----
> DATE_KEY NOT NULL NUMBER(5)
> ORACLE_DATE NOT NULL DATE
> DATACOM_DATE NUMBER(6)
> DATACOM_REVERSE_DATE NUMBER(6)
> DAY_OF_WEEK NOT NULL VARCHAR2(30)
> DAY_NUMBER_IN_MONTH NOT NULL NUMBER(3)
> DAY_NUMBER_OVERALL NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
> WEEK_NUMBER_IN_YEAR NOT NULL NUMBER(3)
> WEEK_NUMBER_OVERALL NOT NULL NUMBER(7)
> MONTH NOT NULL VARCHAR2(30)
> MONTH_NUMBER_OVERALL NOT NULL NUMBER(7)
> YEAR NOT NULL NUMBER(5)
> WEEKDAY_IND NOT NULL CHAR(1)
> LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_IND NOT NULL CHAR(1)
> DATA_WAREHOUSE_MOD_DATETIME NOT NULL DATE
> DATA_MART_MOD_DATETIME NOT NULL DATE
>
>
>
> SQL> select oracle_date from date_dim where rownum=1;
>
> ORACLE_DA
> ---------
> 01-JAN-70
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Cherie Machler
> Oracle DBA
> Gelco Information Network
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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