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Re:RE: Fairly Boring News Article on Oracle

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 07:18:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0043F683.20020409071825@fatcity.com>


Patrice,

    Since we're in the middle of a PeopleSoft implementation I can say that I agree with the comments in the articles. If you buy one of these prebuilt packages you have the problem of either re-inventing your business or trying to modify the package to meet your requirements. Option 1 is troublesome at best since you may well have to re-orientate people and practices from years of what they were use to. Ugly to say the least. Now option 2 is more like skating on paper thin ice. PeopleSoft is 'modifiable' but there are a lot of other ramifications that one has to think about, like upgrades. The closer to 'plain vanilla' you can stay the better. The farther away you get, the less the vendor supports you and the harder (and longer) upgrades become. SAP and Oracle do not lend themselves to modification. SAP just because those Germans know best (so I've been told by those with experience) and Oracle because it just plain does not fit. What are people doing, PeopleSoft or else roll your own. Now Oracle does make a decent tool set for the later in Designer and Developer. Personally I would prefer that they drop the apps and concentrate on the tools and database.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Boivin; Patrice J" <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date:       4/9/2002 6:08 AM

If people aren't using SAP, Oracle Applications or PeopleSoft, what are they using?  

PlumTree portals? Is that what they mean by Web services?  

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:53 AM
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http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ap/xml/02/04/08/020408aporacle.xml
<http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ap/xml/02/04/08/020408aporacle.xml>

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I think this is good news, Oracle accepting these user groups.  

It's probably the most cost-efficient, effective way for Oracle to get honest feedback on how to improve their products.  

The better their products, the more successful they will be it seems to me.  

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes 
Technology Services        | Services technologiques 
Informatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique 
Maritimes Region, DFO      | Région des Maritimes, MPO 

E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca

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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:28 AM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story
<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&ncid=738&e=2&u=/nm/2002
0409/tc_nm/tech_oracle_dc_7>
&cid=581&ncid=738&e=2&u=/nm/20020409/tc_nm/tech_oracle_dc_7  

Cheers,
JoJo  

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<DIV><SPAN class=137560413-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
people aren't using SAP, Oracle Applications or PeopleSoft, what are they using?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=137560413-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=137560413-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>PlumTree portals?&nbsp; Is that what they mean by Web services?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000
size=1>Patrice Boivin</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=1>Systems Analyst</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=1>(Oracle Certified DBA)</FONT> </P>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Farnsworth, Dave   [mailto:DFarnsworth_at_Ashleyfurniture.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 09,   2002 9:53 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list   ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Fairly Boring News Article on   Oracle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A   href="http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ap/xml/02/04/08/020408aporacle.xml">ht tp://www.infoworld.com/articles/ap/xml/02/04/08/020408aporacle.xml</A></FONT></D IV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">     <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma     size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Boivin, Patrice J     [mailto:BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 09, 2002     7:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list     ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Fairly Boring News Article on     Oracle<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I     think this is good news, Oracle accepting these user     groups.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2>It's probably the most cost-efficient<FONT color=#000000>, effective     way for Oracle to get honest feedback on how to improve their     products.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>     <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2>The better their products, the more successful they will be it seems     to me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>     <DIV><SPAN class=494211211-09042002></SPAN><FONT face=Arial     size=2>Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=1>Patrice Boivin</FONT>

    <BR><FONT face=Arial size=1>Systems Analyst</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
    color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=1>(Oracle 
    Certified DBA)</FONT> </DIV>

    <P><FONT face="Courier New" color=#000000 size=1>Systems Admin &amp;     Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes</FONT> <BR><FONT     face="Courier New" color=#000000 size=1>Technology     Services&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | Services     technologiques</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" color=#000000     size=1>Informatics Branch&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |     Direction de l'informatique </FONT><BR><FONT face="Courier New"     color=#000000 size=1>Maritimes Region, DFO&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |     Région des Maritimes, MPO</FONT> </P>     <P><FONT face=Arial color=#000000
    size=2>E-Mail:<B></B></FONT><B><U></U></B><U></U><U> <FONT face=Arial     color=#0000ff size=2>boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca</FONT></U> </P>     <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> JoJo Zawawi 
      [mailto:jojo_at_jojo-zawawi.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:28

      AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
      Fairly Boring News Article on Oracle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>JoJo</FONT></DIV>
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