RE: RMAN

Lisa,
What version of Oracle are you using? We are toying with using RMAN to backup our 9i databases. We are using Legato so I am figuring the integration will be pretty good. I never really felt the need to give up my scripts before but then again, I was always able to back up to disk or shut the database down. No longer the case. Plus, 9i RMAN offers block level recovery, which peaked my interest.

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Dave,

I never said setup was easy. I agree that getting the tape software integrated can be a real pain in the side, depending on what vendor you use (DON'T USE CA'S ARCSERVE) As far as backup goes, this is my command for full database backup. Much simpler than strategies I've had to use in the past:

run {

allocate channel tape1 type 'sbt_tape'
format '%d_%s_%p_%t.rman';

backup database
tag='full_db_backup'
setsize 5000000;

}

Since I don't have the luxury of a catalog database at my disposal, I can't store scripts so my alter system archive log all statement, backup archivelogs and controlfile are separate run statements.

Here's the simplest part. I have tested recovery from several scenarios with just the following commands:

restore database;
recover database;

and watched rman bring back the necessary archive logs and database files. Now that is simple if you ask me, especially if I happen to be half-asleep when I need to do this.

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Baby Oven.
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
954-935-4117

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Morgan [SMTP:dave.morgan_at_cybersurf.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:41 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: RMAN
>
> Hi Lisa,
> RMAN easy? ROTFL
>
> ksh scripts, 5 minutes to adjust environment variables done
>
> RMAN, let see create a seperate database, set up RMAN, oh, then
> I have to set up RMAN in the production db to protect my RMAN db
>
> Oh and then shall we integrate Legato or NetBackup.
>
> 2 days minimum.
>
> Having said this, remember, who needs backups? We just need
> recoveries.
>
> I use RMAN, I just don't trust it. I have had situations (8.0.5)
> where
> I could not recover with RMAN but could with the backups from
> scripts
>
> RMAN and OEM belong in the same place, the garbage
>
> Long live vi, ksh/sh/bash and sqlplus
>
> Dave
>
> Lisa wrote:
>
> >
> > Gene's afraid of R-Man!
> > Gene's afraid of R-Man!
> >
> > Gene you will not believe how simple RMAN is once you start using it...
> >
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