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Re: Oracle From a Sybase DBA perspective| What is a Database to S

From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:08:21 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00437574.20020330200821@fatcity.com>


> Sybase database = Oracle tablespace

My impression was that a Sybase database was more akin to an Oracle Schema.

Mind you I've had the training for Sybase, but haven't done much with it. I'm thankful too, I didn't care for it much.

Jared

On Saturday 30 March 2002 04:23, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> Ian,
>
> Having worked with Sybase years ago, I developed this "translation"
>
> Sybase instance = Oracle database
> Sybase database = Oracle tablespace
> Sybase dbo user = Oracle sys user
> Sybase master database = Oracle SYSTEM tablespace
>
> anyone have a better explanation?
>
> Rachel
>
> --- "MacGregor, Ian A." <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
> > Well, that certainly was interesting!! No database will always
> > compare favorably to others for every feature. There are some tings
> > SYBASE does better than Oracle. However, he is either ignorant of
> > such things as the "no logging" directive, or refuses to consider
> > them because they are not part of SYBASE. I believe that is his real
> > point, Oracle ain't Sybase. If methods to accomplish a task differ
> > Oracle's way is wrong. Oracle has lagged other database vendors in
> > facilitating getting the data out of the database, while doing a
> > superior job of lessening the chances of losing data.
> >
> > Perhaps someone with SYBASE experience can explain exactly what a
> > database is to Sybase. I infer from the posting that having
> > thousands of them on a single server is common place. I imagine it's
> > the opposite of parallel server: instead of multiple instances
> > associated with a single set of database files, a single instance is
> > associated with multiple sets of database files. Each set of files
> > being a database.
> >
> > Ian MacGregor
> > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> > ian_at_slac.stanford.edu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:43 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Feel like having a good rant? Need to take some frustrations
> > out on lies, ignorance and misinformation?
> >
> > I received a document from a friend that live in both the Sybase
> > and Oracle worlds. He was interested in my comments on it
> > as he recognized it as a rant against Oracle that was full of
> > misinformation.
> >
> > Oracle has it's problems, but if you want to rant about it's
> > inadequacies, you should at least be accurate.
> >
> > Some of the things in here I can't address, such as the
> > IEEE number formats.
> >
> > Others are just plain stupid.
> >
> > The writer claims to have spent 3 years with Oracle, but he's
> > either lying or extraordinarily incompetent, I dunno which.
> >
> > Here's my proposal: I'm turning this document loose to the list.
> > I was going to comment on it myself, but it's fairly lengthy, and I
> > just don't have time to do it myself.
> >
> > Besides, I know that some of you relish such opportunities. :)
> >
> > It's in MS Word format. If you want to make comments about
> > any section of the document, include your comments in blue
> > font below that section.
> >
> > I will compile the comments, and send the annotated document
> > back to my friend. He can distribute it to his Sybase DBA friends
> > if he likes.
> >
> > I was kidding about the ranting. Please keep it objective and
> > professional.
> >
> > Please include your name at the top of the document. Tell me if
> > you want your name and email address included in the finished
> > document.
> >
> > The document can be found at:
> >
> > http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/Oracle_from_a_Sybase_DBA.doc
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
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