OT edge cities & new urbanism (re: Now: Remote or Not? ) / Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 085

From: Eric D. Pierce <PierceED_at_csus.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:25:37 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004341F9.20020326132537@fatcity.com>

John,

The accepted term for what you call "extended suburbia" is "edge cities". In Sacramento, examples that violate your 100 mile rule would be Roseville/Rocklin & Folsom, although I guess you could see them as "edge cities" of the larger Bay Area in some sense.

OT, but perhaps interesting in the context of this thread about "lifestyle" issues, relocation, etc. of DBAs (and other tech workers), see the info on "new urbanism" at the sites listed below.

Andres Duany has identified 3 main "villians" in terms of ugly/stupid growth patterns in the USA:

1. environmentalists and other (usually leftist) activists that are dependent on an "oppositionalist" paradigm (as opposed to a "constructivist" paradigm).
2. road engineers, who are the rigidly doctrinaire "high priests" of the bureaucracy that gave birth to the suburban sprawl mess in the USA after WWII.
3. politically correct mentality at architecture schools. due to slavish devotion to "fashionable nonsense", it has been hard to get them to embrace human-centered design elements that were discovered for 100s, or 1,000s of years in "traditional" parts of the world.

Note that Duany says that "developers" can easily be taught the new human-centered paradigm, and he has found they make as much money either way. developers just want to avoid problems from either road-engineer/planning bureauc-rats, or environmental protestors.

Duany designed the town that is the site of the movie "Truman" (no, it wasn't purely a movie set, it is a real place).

http://www.seasidefl.com/index.html

regards,
ep

http://www.cheshire-tnd.com/index.html

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http://www.cnu.org

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http://www.dpz.com/main.htm

> There is a growing movement in North America to put an end to suburban
> sprawl and to replace the automobilebased settlement patterns of the
> past fifty years with a return to more traditional planning principles.
> This movement stems not only from the realization that sprawl is
> ecologically and economically unsustainable but also from an awareness
> of sprawl’s many victims: children, utterly dependent on parental
> transportation if they wish to escape the cul-de-sac; the elderly,
> warehoused in institutions once they lose their driver’s licenses;
> commuters, stuck in traffic for two or more hours each day; the urban
> poor, isolated in deteriorating cities without access to jobs or
> services.

>
> Founders of the Congress for the New Urbanism, Andres Duany and
> Elizabeth Plater-Zyberk are at the forefront of this movement, and in
> Suburban Nation they assess sprawl’s costs to society, be they
> ecological, economic, aesthetic, or social. This book is a lively
> critical lament, and an entertaining lesson on the distinctions between
> postwar suburbiacharacterized by housing clusters, strip shopping
> centers, office parks, and Parking lots-and the traditional
> neighborhoods that were built as a matter of course until midcentury.
> It indicts the design and development industries for the fact that
> America no longer builds towns. Most important, though, it is a book
> that also offers us solutions.
>
>
>
> “Dissects the physical design of the suburbs brilliantly...[The
> authors] set forth more clearly than anyone has done in our time the
> elements of good town planning.”
>
> Paul Goldberger
>
> The New Yorker
>
>
>
> “Suburban Nation is an essential text for our time, as compelling and
> import as Jane Jacobs’s The Death and Life of Great American Cities
> and Venturi, Brown and Izenour’s Learning from Las Vegas. This book is
> not only a passionately argued, carefully reasoned dissection of the
> mess that is becoming man made America but also a clear program of
> steps that can be taken to enhance the humanity of both our suburbs
> and our cities while conserving our rapidly dwindling countryside.
> Everyone who cares about the future of our American way of life should
> read this book.”
>
> Robert A.M. Stern
>
> Dean
>
> Yale School of Architecture
>
>
>
> “America will continue to grow, like it or not. The challenge is to do
> so in a way that contains sprawl and offers attractive living choices
> for families of all descriptions and income levels. To meet that
> challenge, Suburban Nation is an essential handbook.”
>
> John King
>
> San Francisco Chronicle Book Review

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 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:12:18 -0800
 Subject: Now: Remote or Not? Was: Production Oracle DBA Needed in Rocheste

| On a personal front, I observe that (at least in the US) the
| urban/suburban cost-of-living is driving more and more
| remote workers (quite a number of IT workers, esp. DBAs)
| into the extended suburbia (100 miles or more, up from
| the current 50 mile radius), where these workers do come in
| once or twice a week, sometimes to 'branch offices' spread
| out among the various suburbs....

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