RE: Production Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester, Minnesota

At 36, I am the senior senior DBA here at CSX. Yet, I am the youngest of the group of 12 or so.....

Go figure!

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration

The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him.

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Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:00 PM
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Here's a good one - I interviewed for a job THREE TIMES at a pharmaceutical company in Miami. quite a haul, but would have been a great job. I got the final call saying, They are willing to pay you $xx if you attend ONE MORE interview (people-type, I had passed all the tech interviews) and work in Downtown Miami - 50 miles away. I turned it down.

I later spoke to the recruiter about it and he said I was too young for the position in their opinion. They wanted a senior dba that looked senior. I have a few grey hairs, but please! That was a first, and probably a LAST.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Production Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester, Minnesota
>
> Brian - Hmm. . . let me see, you started work at 8 years old, so even with
> 20 years of experience you still meet the "under 30" image they had in
> mind
> when they advertised the position. The nature of the questions certainly
> sound slanted in that direction. But maybe I'm just being a paranoid DBA
> with over 20 years experience.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
>
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>
>
> (hope this answers your question Lisa)
>
> Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = ON;
>
> I interviewed for a DBA position there recently. I was not able to give
> my
> best interview because I had the worst cold I've had in several years
> (cough, dizzy, slight temperature, etc.). So in there defense, and mine,
> they did not see me at my best.
>
> My issue was with the interview questions. I must have answered 10 "what
> if" personal conflict questions. It got to the point that I should have
> asked "are personal conflicts a problem here". They also ask questions
> like "what don't you like about your job", "what was the worst recovery
> you ever had that was a bad situation", and "how do you feel about being
> beeped at 3 in the morning". I don't know about you all, but I LOVE what
> I
> do, no recover is a bad situation when you KNOW that you have what it
> takes
> to do recover (both files and experience), and after 20 years in this
> industry I accept and understand the requirement of the 3 in the morning
> calls. Hell, some of the best fun and most rewarding things I've done
> have
> been a result of 3 a.m. calls. I just couldn't shake the feeling they
> didn't trust or believe me.
>
> They also didn't ask what I consider some basic but important questions
> for
> any DBA. Like: How to detect, diagnose, and recover from an instance
> hang;
> What do you do when a user calls and says the system is slow or that they
> can't connect; How to capture application SQL errors from the db side
> when
> the application is not providing a quality ORA-nnnnn message.
>
> I felt they had a bit to much of the "Best of the Best of the Best"
> attitude as far as the Mayo Clinic goes. Yes they have done great work in
> the field of medicine, and I commend them for that. But there are many
> great medical organizations and no "one" is the best.
>
> Lastly, it's importaint to remember that Rochester is a company town.
> About 85,000 people live there. And from what I gathered, 25,000 of them
> work for Mayo. If you go there be prepared to think, live, breath, and
> die
> (at) Mayo.
>
> As Dennis Miller says "that's just my opinion I could be wrong "
>
> I wish them well.
>
>
> Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = OFF;
>
> Brian P. MacLean
> Oracle DBA, OCP8i
>
>
>
>
>
> "Koivu, Lisa"
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> 03/22/02 09:09 AM Subject: RE: Production
> Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester,
> Minnesota
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>
> Brian, you can't say that and not say why... is the Mayo a sweatshop?
> Please do share, even if it's off the list. I used to live in Minneapolis
> and miss it terribly.
>
> Lisa Koivu
> Oracle Database Baby Oven.
> Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL
> 954-935-4117
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian_P_MacLean_at_eFunds.Com
> [SMTP:Brian_P_MacLean_at_eFunds.Com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:03 AM
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> > Subject: Re: Production Oracle DBA Needed in Rochester,
> Minnesota
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> >
> > Can you say "Mayo Clinic"......Be afraid, be very afraid (IMAO)
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> > OraStaff
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> > Please respond
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> > Position: Oracle DBA
> > Location: Rochester, Minnesota
> > Salary Range: 65-75K- maybe more
> >
> > Description:
> > This client company-a leader in its' field, needs an Oracle DBA to
> provide
> > database support.
> > This position includes support of all aspects of the Oracle relational
> > database product (ASE)
> > on primarily SUN Unix platforms.
> >
> > The key is depth of production database experience (as opposed
> > to development), knowledge of core Oracle infrastructure and the pieces
> > that make up the instances.
> >
> > Tasks will include, but are not limited to: capacity planning,
> > installation, upgrading, monitoring, performance and tuning, responding
> to
> > trouble calls,
> > writing administrative scripts in Unix shell languages and SQL/PL-SQL,
> > backup and recovery,
> > and maintaining security in the institution's Oracle environments.
> > Sharing a 24x7 on-call rotation with the other members of the team is
> also
> > expected.
> > This is an interesting position with a solid organization with terrific
> > benefits.
> > *They need a Production DBA not an Development side DBA.
> >
> > This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
> parties
> > please.
> >
> > Please do not call or send a resume if you are not in the U.S. and/or
> need
> > sponsorship.
> >
> > Requirements:
> > *Bachelor's degree in computer science, related field or equivalent
> > experience.
> > *Three or more years of supporting a multi-server Oracle environment.
> > *Strong analytical and problem solving skills.
> > *Demonstrated proficiency with the HP or SUN Unix operating system.
> > *Replication is not required but a big plus.
> > * Must be a U.S. citizen or perm. resident with excellent English.
> >
> > For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
> > to:
> >
> > OraStaff, Inc.
> > Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
> > Phone: 1-800-549-8502. (*Please do not call if you need sponsorship)
> > Please Use Job Code: One/DBA/Rochester/Diane
> >
> > I pay referral fees.
> > So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
> > qualified/interested
> > in the
> > posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Law
> >
> >
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