Re: Oracle Gold Support

JoJo,

You choose "Custom" install, and when it asks, if you want "starter" db, say - "no".

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
ineyman_at_perceptron.com

• Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:58 PM

> Robert,
>
> I currently have Windows automatically setting my VM, and my settings show
> currently 1,825 MB. So I don't get why this isn't working.
>
> How do I tell the installer not to create the DB for me?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> JoJo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:39 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I have ALOT of VM setup...
>
> Looking.. at... my ... laptop... configuration...
>
> I currently have 143MB of virtual memory allocated. I think I have
> actually reduced that from 256MB when I did the install.
>
> Hint #2, do not allow the installer to create the database for you.
> that adds significantly additional memory requirements. So, install
> the software, then start DBCA separately.
>
> RF
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> Oracle DBA Technical Lead
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
>
> The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can
> take his freedom away from him.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> No kidding ??? How much virtual memory do you have set ???
>
> Every time I tried to install 9i, it would get to the database cloning
part
> and bomb completely.
>
> Cheers,
> JoJo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:29 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Interesting... I have 9i installed on a laptop with 64 megs... :-)
> Virtual memory does wonders! :-)
>
> RF
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> Oracle DBA Technical Lead
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
>
> The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can
> take his freedom away from him.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> At the time, I was brand-spankin' new to Oracle, and didn't even know
> technet existed. I was looking at the "product info" pages where you
> purchase products (which usually at least show system requirements when
you
> click on the "more info" button type of thing). Since I couldn't find the
> data there, I called Sales, who could not help me... they assured me that
> they were sure my system was up to snuff (with 192 megs RAM). When I
tried
> to install, it bombed repeatedly and had to be manually uninstalled each
> time. I couldn't get any help whatsoever at all unless I purchased
service,
> at which time they told me simply that I needed more memory (256 megs).
> Even buying service was a pain in the behind -- apparently it's a new
thing
> that you can buy service after buying the license, and the service sales
> dept didn't know about this. Don't forget that they also entered 2
separate
> invoices for the license and charged my credit card twice (at several
> hundred bucks a pop). That was a whole other story, getting that fixed
up.
> With 40,000 employees, I found that dealing with Oracle was like dealing
> with a small country.
>
> --JoJo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Robert
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I don't understand this.... the product (the RDBMS) can be downloaded
> for FREE from oracle.com.....the doc's are free to look at at
> technet.oracle.com, including specific platform install guides which
> contain product requirements (as seen here)
>
>

http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/doc_library/90111install/reqs.h
> tm#1195223
>
> All the requirements are freely available. While I think it was terrible
> that your sales folks didn't know what these requirements were, I think
> it is inaccurate to say that you were made to purchase anything. All the
> info is freely available... in fact a google search for
> "Oracle9i Memory requirements" found me plenty of information. I think you
> bear some responsibility in this as well.
>
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> Oracle DBA Technical Lead
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
>
> The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can
> take his freedom away from him.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:33 PM
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>
>
> They made me purchase customer support before they would even tell me the
> system requirements for 9i (which I had already purchased, including a
> personal 2-year license). It turns out that I need to buy more memory and
> can't install the product. That tee'd me off ! I couldn't get a
> salesperson anywhere to tell me the requirements, and it definitely wasn't
> on the product info pages on their site.
>
> --JoJo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Robert
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Anyone else just slightly irritated with the level of customer support
> offered for phone callers to Oracle now days? Used to be, that if you
> were a gold customer as we are, you could almost count on instant first
line
> support. Last week I called and was told that a phone call would
> result in at least a one hour delay in an analyst call back, whereas
> an iTar (lie tars I call em) will get me about 30 minute response.
> The representative was rude and snarly to me at the same time.
> Is this how Larry wants to save that second billion, crappy customer
> service?
>
> RF
>
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
> Oracle DBA Technical Lead
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
>
> The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can
> take his freedom away from him.
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