Dennis,
at least you have management yammering at you... try being an "old
fogey" and LOOKING for a job.
Scary
Rachel
- DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> wrote:
> Geez, will you guys knock it off. Like many of you, I started on
> punch
> cards. But now my management is yammering about wanting "young
> Turks", and
> I'm trying to remind myself that I still have many youthful ideas to
> contribute. Your one-upmanship about who started with the most
> archaic form
> of technology isn't making me feel any better.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:23 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Well, if you want to be nostalgic:
> We worked then on an IBM mainframe, 360/25, that we programmed
> the firmware by toggles after almost each power break.
> This mainframe has 28K memory that was used 24k for programs
> and 4K for writer. One heck of a mainframe.
>
> Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
> adary_at_mehish.co.il
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:wisernet100_at_yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sun, March 03, 2002 2:53 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design. Help!
> >
> > I had a teacher in college who could program the machine by
> flipping
> > the switches on the front.
> >
> > We had paper tape, a step up from the plugs :)
> >
> >
> > --- אדר_יחיאל <adary_at_mehish.co.il> wrote:
> > > Well it was punched cards but ...
> > > we also had a machine that was programmed (almost beads)
> > > by using plugs connected by wire and inserted in various holes
> > > on the control panel.
> > > We had some control panels that make "spaghetti" look like
> > > a set of straight lines.
> > >
> > > Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
> > > adary_at_mehish.co.il
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Cupp [SMTP:michaelcupp_at_SHONAC.com]
> > > > Sent: Fri, March 01, 2002 3:08 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design.
> Help!
> > > >
> > > > 30 years? Wasn't that involved in sliding wooden beads on a
> metal
> > > stick?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:33 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-BTW It so happens that this month is the month that
> > > > >-30 years ago (1972) I started to learn computers
> > > >
> > > > Punch cards perhaps!!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:18 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Don
> > > >
> > > > You will be suprised but the folks around here usually
> > > > come to the dba before, after and during designing .
> > > > They know the value of an experienced dba (> 20 years).
> > > >
> > > > BTW It so happens that this month is the month that
> > > > 30 years ago (1972) I started to learn computers
> > > > and am doing damage since then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
> > > > adary_at_mehish.co.il
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: bill thater [SMTP:bthater2_at_netscape.net]
> > > > > Sent: Thu, February 28, 2002 6:13 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Subject: Re: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design.
> > Help!
> > > > >
> > > > > dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >A very true set of statements on all sides. I've done as
> much &
> > > am
> > > > > >in
> > > > > the
> > > > > >process once again. I just wish that once in my life as a
> DBA I
> > > did
> > > > > >not
> > > > > have to
> > > > > >cleanup someone else's mess. Now if you all don't mind, I'm
> off
> > > to
> > > > > >the
> > > > > hardware
> > > > > >store for a new shovel!! :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > you mean they would actually consult you when the application
> was
> > >
> > > > > being
> > > > > designed, so you could help provide a design that was
> efficient
> > > and easy
> > > >
> > > > > to maintain?
> > > > >
> > > > > yea, right. not even in my dreams.;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA
> > > > > bthater2_at_netscape.net
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
> > > > > You gotta program like you don't need the money,
> > > > > You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
> > > > > You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
> > > > > It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
> > > > > [Unix] is not necessarily evil, like OS/2. - Peter Norton
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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