We Have the same issue here. Large Tables , loaded
nightly But nobody uses them. Management calls it a
Datawarehouse, I call it a data repository. Can a
cusotmer find out what they need. NOPE
Document your findings, to C.Y.A.
Good Luck
- "Orr, Steve" <sorr_at_rightnow.com> wrote:
> When I was consulting at a particular client, I saw
> the effects of this
> "approach" after the fact. Massive amounts of data
> were loaded into tables
> that were never accessed except to load data because
> the users couldn't do
> anything with it. Later it was thought that to fix
> this all they had to do
> was send the users to training on the reporting
> tool. After they spent lots
> of money on training nothing changed because the
> users still didn't
> understand the data and couldn't do anything with
> it. Meanwhile, damangement
> checked off it's "accomplishment" of an objective on
> the HR management
> forms. I suspect that may be what you're dealing
> with. After all, isn't it
> more important to report that you did something that
> to actually do
> something worthwhile? ;-) The notion that DBA's
> aren't needed and all you
> have to do is load data into a relational database
> and give the end users a
> point and click GUI tool is foolish but not uncommon
> with shortsided
> damagement.
>
>
> Steve Orr
>
>
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>
> I've lost patience, my temper, and I'm about to quit
> a job because the IT
> manager has decreed that we will have "his" data
> warehouse running within
> 24 hours, and we will use his design.
>
> 1 - We are NOT to use any kind of views, not even
> materailzed views.
> 2 - we are not to do any computations, summaries or
> rollups
> 3 - we are to have everything in one table
> 4 - "the" table name and column names will be
> meaningful to any clerk
> 5 - we are not to "start" or "snowflake" designs.
> "That's just a bunch of
> high power talk."
> 6 - all users will be trained to use MS Access to
> get at "their"
> data. (These are users that were just converted off
> from "green screen"
> teminals within the last 45-days, to Windows 98 with
> 64k RAM.)
> 7 - We are not to just copy the legacy transactions.
> 8 - We are to load into "an" Oracle table, all
> legacy transction data
> because "we don't want to limit how or what a user
> will look at"
> 9 - It is not necessary to talk with the users to
> see what data they want
> to look at, or the atomic level. "They are smart
> enough to fighure this
> out on their own. We just need to provide them the
> data."
> 10 - There shall be no long term maintenance
> required by "the" dw.
>
>
> Any ideas on how to deal with this situation?
>
> For tomorrow, I've done a CTAS from a materialized
> view that we created to
> support one departments known requirements.
>
>
> Don
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