Oracle FAQ Your Portal to the Oracle Knowledge Grid
HOME | ASK QUESTION | ADD INFO | SEARCH | E-MAIL US
 

Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 05:43:22 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00414228.20020220054322@fatcity.com>


Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something, I would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise. Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:38 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed through the internet,
NOT INTRANET. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
adary_at_mehish.co.il

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:DWILLIAMS_at_lifetouch.com]
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 12:08 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
>
> Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
> licensing?
> Thanks.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
> appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license
> (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but
> appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database.
>
>
> --- Stephane Faroult <sfaroult_at_oriole.com> wrote:
> > "Smith, Ron L." wrote:
> > >
> > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients
> > using
> > > Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
> > licensing.
> > > We have about 100 instances to monitor.
> > >
> > > Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might
> > mean to
> > > the majority of people?
> > >
> > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8.
> > >
> > > Ron Smith
> > > DBA
> > > Kerr-McGee Corp
> > >
> >
> > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last
> > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals
> > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a
> > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we
> > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job
> > processes
> > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag
> > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a
> > database
> > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal'
> > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So
> > they
> > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this
> > is
> > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their
> > number
> > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's
> > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB
> > links messy).
> > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether
> > the
> > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has
> > a
> > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program,
> > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is
> > propagated.
> > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table
> > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and
> > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database,
> > then
> > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this
> > machine
> > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from
> > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spontaneously
> > discussed during the negotiation.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Stephane Faroult
> > Oriole Ltd
> > --
> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> > --
> > Author: Stephane Faroult
> > INET: sfaroult_at_oriole.com
> >
> > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
> > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing
> > Lists
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
> > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
> > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
> > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
> > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
> http://sports.yahoo.com
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: Rachel Carmichael
> INET: wisernet100_at_yahoo.com
>
> Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
> San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
> INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
>
> Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
> San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).

-- 
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
-- 
Author: =?iso-8859-8?Q?=E0=E3=F8_=E9=E7=E9=E0=EC?=
  INET: adary_at_mehish.co.il

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
-- 
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
-- 
Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
  INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Received on Wed Feb 20 2002 - 07:43:22 CST

Original text of this message

HOME | ASK QUESTION | ADD INFO | SEARCH | E-MAIL US