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RE: Re[2]: Linux taking over at Oracle

From: George Hofilena <GHofilena_at_cnv.org>
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:03:34 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004037DE.20020201095026@fatcity.com>

>become an all-MySQL shop

As we are here now. Aaagh! We are planning to buy PeopleSoft and my boss has practically decided on his own that we should buy SQL Server. And if not for the fact that our other applications here couldn't run on SQL Server Oracle would have been history here. I hate that psycho up there they call CEO in Oracle.

George

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I think Larry lives in his own dream world. We're currently using Oracle on inexpensive Linux servers, but that probably won't last for long.

Our Oracle licenses cost over $65,000 per server. The servers cost about $30,000 each, and the OS is essentially free. Makes no sense at all. If Oracle continues to insist on using its ridiculous pricing schemes we'll probably become an all-MySQL shop, at least after InnoDB matures a bit.

I've worked with Oracle for fifteen years now, and Larry's even more flaky now than he was back then.

--Walt Weaver

  Bozeman, Montana

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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:45 AM
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Jonathan,

    I remember reading an article in Oracle Magazine about a year to year & a
half ago, where Uncle Larry was prostelatizing us to create one large database
vs. having lots of small ones. So the screw turns once more!! Also I remember
Oracle being torqued at RedHat some time ago & find that 9i is NOT certified on
RedHat. Guess that will change! Also, for those who remember, Uncle Larry did
predict that the "database would replace the operating system" some years ago.
Funny how these ideas change, don't materialize, or have other problems that prevent them becoming reality. But then I guess that's what you get trying to
read a foggy crystal ball!! :-)

    My problem with all of this is that he's pointing us towards cheaper computers and operating systems, but will the cost of Oracle itself follow?? I
doubt it. Which puts a pile of us in a rather sticky position. How do you justify $40K for Oracle on a $10K computer with a $0 OS?

    My brain hurts.

Dick Goulet

BTW: Uncle Larry torqued off Apple (MacOS) some years ago when he dropped support for it all together.

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Author: Jonathan Gennick <jonathan_at_gennick.com>
Date:       1/31/2002 6:35 PM

Interesting news. Makes me wonder though. Remember when Oracle moved to support client-server computing? Now Larry derides client-server and distributed computing saying that it's cheaper to have just one big system. How many times have you heard Larry talk about how Oracle's consolidated their email servers? Makes me wonder whether five years down the road Larry will be telling us that it's "silly to run a database on 50 cheap boxes" because it's much easier to administer one big one.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick
mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com * 906.387.1698 http://Gennick.com * http://MichiganWaterfalls.com * http://ValleySpur.com

Thursday, January 31, 2002, 2:36:21 PM, you wrote: AMG0> Ellison says Oracle's 'whole business' to run on Linux

AMG0> The Oracle chairman and CEO said the company will replace three Unix
AMG0> servers
AMG0> that run the bulk of its business applications with a cluster of Intel
AMG0> Corp.
AMG0> servers running Linux.

AMG0> http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO67867_NLTAM%2C00.html

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