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JoJo,
you said
"being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems
deciphering the manual." You try to find it first on your own.
I will answer beginner questions all day. Most of my presentations are on beginner stuff. But you have to at least make an effort to find it yourself. You don't learn if you don't at least ATTEMPT to do it yourself.
In fact, I've gone offlist and helped people who are having problems, working with them to figure out what's wrong.
The problem is, it appears to many on the list that Roland was not even trying to figure it out on his own. THAT is what bothers us.
Rachel
--- JoJo Al-Zawawi <jojo_at_jojo-zawawi.com> wrote:
> No offense to anybody, but I think this is rather arrogant. The list
> is for
> anybody (unless the list owner decides it's just for experienced
> dba's). I
> am brand new to Oracle, having just started learning it this week. I
> can
> easily foresee having what some might consider stupid or RTFM
> questions, and
> being possibly unable to find the answer or having problems
> deciphering the
> manual. I myself am somewhat of a Word pro (and my vba code samples
> page is
> the #1 ranked site of its kind on most major search engines) and I
> help all
> kinds of newbies out on a Word list of which I am a member, as do all
> the
> other members of the list. Everybody on that list is extremely
> gracious and
> nobody complains -- and the people with questions get the help they
> need,
> with nobody sitting back going "boy are you stupid / lazy". I am
> hoping
> that I can get the same kind of help here, when I am ready for it,
> that I
> and others give on other lists.
>
> --JoJo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
> The problem is that if you always ask the group for help, you never
> learn
> where the information is within the manuals or other reference
> documentation
> and the group also gets cluttered with trivia.
>
> I agree with you that the list is here to help people and I
> personally do
> not mind the odd naive question from a new DBA, but it is the
> "...can't be
> bothered to look up the manual.." attitude that is most frustrating.
> When
> you ask the format of a command (for example) to the list, you are
> potentionally asking 1000's of people the same question who will all
> have to
> spend the time to filter these questions - we are all busy people and
> I
> personally do not want to use my time in this way. I'm sure you can
> see
> that this is a much more expensive option than asking the person next
> to
> you.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Craig.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> <mailto:rabbit_at_emirates.net.ae> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 2:55 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Why do you bother being on this List: The list is here to help fellow
>
> DBA'S. Have you never said to one of your collegues , what is the
> format of
> this command, or how can I do that, when you simply cant be bothered
> to
> look it up in the manual (either your busy or just down right lazy):
> Sometimes this list is useful for just that. So why dont u lighten up
> dude.
>
>
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-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: wisernet100_at_yahoo.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Received on Tue Jan 29 2002 - 19:56:15 CST
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